Israel has invaded Gaza...

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by finnbow

There's no argument among historians that the Jewish diaspora started in 70 AD.

How do you square your last 2 paragraphs? The first asserts that Israel should not be willing to cede control of the West Bank to the Palestinians and the next asserts that Bibi is willing. There are ample numbers in Bibi's coalition that are fundamentally opposed to anything other than fulling annexing Judea and Samaria into a greater Israel. The whole issue of settlements (both quasi-legal and illegal (even under Israeli law) is paramount.

I'd love to hear your argument if you had the misfortune of being born in one of the dozens of Palestinian refugee camps because your parents' farm was seized by Israel.

So there are ample numbers in Bibi's coalition who would not go a long with a two-state solution. Good, fine...let's say Bibi is blowing smoke up our ass and has never had any intention of supporting a two-state solution. Let's say that the majority of Israelis have the same motives and opinions. I'll go so far, for the sake of argument, that I agree with you.

But then you're gonna have to say that Hamas, Hezbolla, the PLO and the rest of them have no interest in a two-state solution either. They're blowing smoke up everybody's ass as well. They're just not doing quite as good a job of obscuring their actual goals as the Israelis however, when their stated goals are the utter and complete destruction of the State of Israel and every Jew therein driven into the sea.

As far as your last paragraph is concerned...I've had a gutfull of your "you don't know what you're talking about, you've never been there", bullshit.

You've been clear as the waters off Haifa what you think of backwater cabbageville US House districts that elect dirtbags like Louie Gohmert and Michelle Bachmann. Ever been to those or any other ultra-right-wing teabag House districts? Ever been to Gohmert's district? Then maybe you have no right to any fucking opinion whatsoever about what goes on there or why they elect the boneheads they do, run their schools the way they do, deny gays their rights the way they do, stick their noses into women's reproductive organs the way they do, or any other crap they do. After you've spent 4 weeks in Gilmer, Texas, come back an educate me all about it.