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08-29-2023, 10:10 AM
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Waiting for someone to come along after being sufficiently briefed by Reich-wing media that the guy was some lone wolf nut job rather than some raving, radicalized racist with military inspired, high powered, easily obtainable weaponry. Someone who decided that the people he killed were unworthy to exist and he was justified in killing them.
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08-29-2023, 10:56 AM
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1) Your reflexive assertion that "right-wing ideology" is anti-gay is the stuff of strawmen. There is disagreement on some issues, but the left's rhetorically convenient characterization of conservatives as anti-gay is flatly false.
2) I also stated that the shooter was anti-cop. Show me where, in "right-wing ideology", that anti-cop sentiment is found.
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Have you heard of the Boogaloo Boys?
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08-29-2023, 12:09 PM
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1) Your reflexive assertion that "right-wing ideology" is anti-gay is the stuff of strawmen. There is disagreement on some issues, but the left's rhetorically convenient characterization of conservatives as anti-gay is flatly false.
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Oh, really? That would be news to "Don't Say Gay" DeSantis and all the wingnuts shrieking about "groomers" and "drag queens."
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2) I also stated that the shooter was anti-cop. Show me where, in "right-wing ideology", that anti-cop sentiment is found.
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There are over a thousand folks indicted for, among other things, violence towards cops on Capitol Hill on Jan. 6 and a number of GOP politicians who still support these cop-beating criminals. Also, these Congressional wingnuts want to defund the FBI, DOJ and the Special Counsel (all of whom are law enforcement). Try to keep up. You're making a fool of yourself.
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08-29-2023, 04:44 PM
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Oh, really? That would be news to "Don't Say Gay" DeSantis and all the wingnuts shrieking about "groomers" and "drag queens."
There are over a thousand folks indicted for, among other things, violence towards cops on Capitol Hill on Jan. 6 and a number of GOP politicians who still support these cop-beating criminals. Also, these Congressional wingnuts want to defund the FBI, DOJ and the Special Counsel (all of whom are law enforcement). Try to keep up. You're making a fool of yourself.
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You're the one making a fool of yourself. No one supports anyone who engaged in violence on Jan 6. Only an ass would make that case.
Again, folks can disagree about whether or not instruction on sexual orientation or gender identity in schools is appropriate. It doesn't make those folks who disagree "anti-gay". There are Democrats who disagree with abortion. Does that make those Democrats "anti-women"?
No one wants to defund the entire FBI and DOJ. If that's what you're implying, you need to get a clue.
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08-29-2023, 04:52 PM
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Have you heard of the Boogaloo Boys?
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Are you suggesting that this group - whose active membership could probably fit inside of a Pizza Hut - somehow represents mainstream conservative ideology?
Also, there's no agreement that this group is "right-wing": https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/03/us/bo...nvs/index.html
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08-29-2023, 04:57 PM
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You're the one making a fool of yourself. No one supports anyone who engaged in violence on Jan 6. Only an ass would make that case.
Again, folks can disagree about whether or not instruction on sexual orientation or gender identity in schools is appropriate. It doesn't make those folks who disagree "anti-gay". There are Democrats who disagree with abortion. Does that make those Democrats "anti-women"?
No one wants to defund the entire FBI and DOJ. If that's what you're implying, you need to get a clue.
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So Trump is an ass?
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“People that were in that crowd that day went down there — and there are a lot of scenarios we can talk about — but people in that crowd said it was the most beautiful day they’ve ever experienced,” he said. “There was love and unity. I have never seen such spirit and such passion and such love and I’ve also never seen, simultaneously from the same people, such hatred of what they’ve done to our country.”
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"I am inclined to pardon many of them," Trump said at a town hall hosted by CNN at Saint Anselm College in New Hampshire. "I can't say for every single one, because a couple of them, probably they got out of control."
He added that "most likely" he would pardon "a large portion of them."
"And it'll be very early on," Trump said.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...ters-rcna83873
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...on/ar-AA1fHaFn
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08-29-2023, 04:58 PM
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Are you suggesting that this group - whose active membership could probably fit inside of a Pizza Hut - somehow represents mainstream conservative ideology?
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The problem is that "mainstream conservatives" are A OK with being adjacent to terrorist militias like the III %ers, Proud Boys et al.
Your babbling defense of the Arrowhead murderer shows exactly where your sympathies lie.
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08-29-2023, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
Are you suggesting that this group - whose active membership could probably fit inside of a Pizza Hut - somehow represents mainstream conservative ideology?
Also, there's no agreement that this group is "right-wing": https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/03/us/bo...nvs/index.html
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I guess I'll have to respond to your post a second time just to point out that the recently added addendum CNN article is an Op Ed/Analysis (of which you've quite hypocritically and frequently bitched your ass off about). Furthermore the authors never connected any dots that would make the Boogs a leftist organization. Thanks for the extra work, though..
For a college edumacted guy you sure lack basic fundamental reading skills, Michael. Not to be unexpected from a guy that worshiped at Glenn Beck's chalkboard and Limbaugh's bilgewater cast upon the 'waves but you keep tryin', sport.
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08-29-2023, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
Are you suggesting that this group - whose active membership could probably fit inside of a Pizza Hut - somehow represents mainstream conservative ideology?
Also, there's no agreement that this group is "right-wing": https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/03/us/bo...nvs/index.html
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Now whell is goint to try to convince us that the assholes who were beating capitol cops with fire extinguishers and flag poles, the one who beat officer Michael Fanone into a heart attack...they were all ANTIFA!
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08-29-2023, 08:04 PM
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I guess I'll have to respond to your post a second time just to point out that the recently added addendum CNN article is an Op Ed/Analysis (of which you've quite hypocritically and frequently bitched your ass off about). Furthermore the authors never connected any dots that would make the Boogs a leftist organization. Thanks for the extra work, though..
For a college edumacted guy you sure lack basic fundamental reading skills, Michael. Not to be unexpected from a guy that worshiped at Glenn Beck's chalkboard and Limbaugh's bilgewater cast upon the 'waves but you keep tryin', sport.
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Same old tired tropes. You didn't like the CNN cite? Fine, here's another one:
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2020...hat-you-think/
This is a pretty exhaustive and interesting analysis.
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