Murderous GOP Rhetoric Kills Mother Of Nine

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Jacksonville - Three Dead For Being Black

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ation-opinion/

Florida's internal reviews of the A.P. African American Studies course show how the state objected to a slavery lesson because it "may lead to a viewpoint of an oppressor vs. oppressed based solely on race or ethnicity."

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...278582149.html

So, in a state where education officials want to teach students the benefits of slavery, three Black people were just gunned down by a racist. I suppose the victims were guilty of not expressing enough appreciation for the myriad benefits of their relatives having been enslaved.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by whell

Carlos Santana, who may be further to the left of you, recently made anti LGBTQ comments, and being angry at cops is more of a lefty thing. So your citation proves nothing.

Who fucking cares what Carlos Santana's opinions are about transgender. Not me. Add Carlos to the list of alt-right rock star assholes who's music we used to love...like Clapton and Van Morrison. BTW - Carlos recently took responsibility for being fucked in the head over his comments.

Meantime...once again...who fucking cares. The dead killer, (so sad to hear how he was dispatched by some street justice, saving us the the trial, incarceration, and possible execution expenses), made public anti trans and anti LGBTQ statements on social media sites. And then he shot this woman for flying her LGBTQ flag. Plenty enough evidence of his ideology for anybody besides a MAGAt dickweed like you.

So you have your evidence of right-wing ideology and right-wing terrorist activity. Your bullshit statement/question is asked an answered...and all you got is some Carlos Santana right-wing asshole whataboutism...as usual.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

I was paraphrasing David French's article. Read it and tell me how I misinterpreted what he wrote. Better yet, take it to heart.

Yup, and French wrote the article, linking it to the FL shooting, and a typical left-wing media rush to judgment about motive with scant evidence, and you saw fit to post that rush to judgment in this thread.

So, quit lying about your posts. You absolutely intended to paint that shooter as "right-wing", when we know very little about him.

[whell]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Classic 'whataboutism' from this poster. (rolls eyes) Santana quickly walked back and apologized for his remarks.

Meanwhile one of your fellow travelers murdered a mother of nine minding her own damned business at her clothing store over a rainbow flag.

Enough of your sick & deplorable excusing of this murderous rightwingnut. You're one sick puppy, Mike.

And you're disgusting for suggesting that asking you to source your accusations is somehow "excusing of this murderous rightwingnut".

But carry on Bob. You do you.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

So you have your evidence of right-wing ideology and right-wing terrorist activity. Your bullshit statement/question is asked an answered...and all you got is some Carlos Santana right-wing asshole whataboutism...as usual.

1) Your reflexive assertion that "right-wing ideology" is anti-gay is the stuff of strawmen. There is disagreement on some issues, but the left's rhetorically convenient characterization of conservatives as anti-gay is flatly false.

2) I also stated that the shooter was anti-cop. Show me where, in "right-wing ideology", that anti-cop sentiment is found.

[Rajoo]

DeSantis got booed at the Jacksonville vigil, so that's got to count for something.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Yup, and French wrote the article, linking it to the FL shooting, and a typical left-wing media rush to judgment about motive with scant evidence, and you saw fit to post that rush to judgment in this thread.

So, quit lying about your posts. You absolutely intended to paint that shooter as "right-wing", when we know very little about him.

Says the guy who has bought into the nonsense presented in the Comer/Jordan follies and the Fox News echo chamber without a shred of evidence tying Joe Biden to criminal activities (there is far greater evidence of this killer's wingnut ideology than of Biden criminality).

And you still have not answered my question as to why the Far Right is disproportionately responsible for political violence in this country and why conservative political and religious leaders' rhetoric doesn't try to fight this trend instead of helping drive it.

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by whell

2) I also stated that the shooter was anti-cop. Show me where, in "right-wing ideology", that anti-cop sentiment is found.

Man Who Dragged Officer Into Jan. 6 Mob Gets More Than 7 Years
https://www.voanews.com/a/man-who-dr...-/6809107.html

You're welcome.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by whell

1) Your reflexive assertion that "right-wing ideology" is anti-gay is the stuff of strawmen. There is disagreement on some issues, but the left's rhetorically convenient characterization of conservatives as anti-gay is flatly false.

2) I also stated that the shooter was anti-cop. Show me where, in "right-wing ideology", that anti-cop sentiment is found.

Your party is full of anti-democracy fascists, and the few who might have temporarily left their homophobia in their other pants, are vote whores who are looking the other way and refusing to rst out their party members so as not to piss of the MAGAt bigots, racists and homophobic scum.

[finnbow]

The alleged gunman, identified as 27-year-old Travis Ikeguchi, fled on foot and was killed in a shootout with police. Starting in 2015, social media accounts linked to him on Gab and Twitter posted increasingly extreme anti-LGBTQ sentiments as far-right politicians and media figures amped up their rhetoric and attacked Democrats as “groomers” and “pedophiles,” according to NBC News. The Gab account said the “LGBT dictatorship” was an abomination, that same-sex marriage should be abolished, and that there will “come a time” when it will be necessary to shoot police officers, NBC and the San Bernardino Sun reported. The Twitter account believed to belong to Ikeguchi, now suspended, called LGBTQ inclusion “a cancer” and in June showed a Pride flag on fire. The accounts on both sites promoted conspiracy theories about the coronavirus pandemic and the Federal Reserve...

In short, Ikeguchi had all the earmarks of a person who might move from thoughts to action in an era dominated by Trump and his political disciples. A term used by some criminologists and scholars of terrorism is apt here: stochastic terrorism, an act of politically motivated violence that is not directly incited or ordered, and that cannot be predicted but that becomes statistically likely when a large enough population is exposed to rhetoric that demonizes a person or group...

Center for Countering Digital Hate reported last year that anti-LGBTQ posts on social media were surging before the midterms and achieving “astonishing visibility” driven largely by Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia and Lauren Boebert of Colorado, DeSantis press secretary Christina Pushaw, and a few other accounts. More recently, GLAAD and the Anti-Defamation League documented “at least 145 incidents of anti-LGBTQ hate and extremism nationwide during Pride 2023,” more than three times the documented count of 48 incidents last year.

https://plus.thebulwark.com/p/califo...-against-unity

BTW, Whell, this is not a liberal publication. It is decidedly conservative, albeit NeverTrumper, in its outlook.