Putin Invades the Ukraine

[donquixote99]

The Express is taking a pleasant line here. Wish one could believe them.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...update-1572483

What the headline says may very well be true given how accurate our estimates of Soviet military capabilities were. Compared to the U.S. and Germany, Russian training sucks and a Toto has pulled back a curtain.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...update-1572483

Pootin was probably counting on a Desert Storm Shock & Awe type campaign. Mass 190K troops on the border and scare the Ukrainians into caving in. Not quite working that way. Probably didn't count on so much domestic protest either. He was probably counting on a quick victory and then just sit back and tell the world "deal with it". If the Ukrainians can sandbag the Russians enough they'll make Pootin's forces pay a lot higher price than they figured on.

[Chicks]

Mother Russia
Russia thanks its GOP comrades

https://youtu.be/KudntsVcMPM

[Oerets]

Russia should remember just where the Cossack's are from......

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Oerets

Russia should remember just where the Cossack's are from......

Putin does remember. In making his treaty with China he is buying time. Just like Stalin thought he was with Hitler. Siberia is sparsely populated and things are just beginning to warm up.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Pootin was probably counting on a Desert Storm Shock & Awe type campaign. Mass 190K troops on the border and scare the Ukrainians into caving in. Not quite working that way. Probably didn't count on so much domestic protest either. He was probably counting on a quick victory and then just sit back and tell the world "deal with it". If the Ukrainians can sandbag the Russians enough they'll make Pootin's forces pay a lot higher price than they figured on.

Desert Storm was a high capital, very-high-quality forces operation. Russian ability to copy may not be as developed as Putin was lead to believe. Putin has evolved into a 'be sure to tell him what he wants to hear' sort of guy I think.

But Russia has always won with quantity. That will work as far as taking the nearby objectives. End game is going to suck for Russia though. Even if they can drive all the way to the Polish border, and that looks uncertain at this moment, they aren't going to want to prop up a puppet regime with an indefinite occupation, not of a country of Ukraine's population. Putin's going to have to settle for seizing some border territory.

On day one, when the traffic jams showed up on Google, they were sure lucky the USAF wasn't in the fight....

[bobabode]

https://youtu.be/IjE4_h0t7qI

The Ukrainian choir - Dumka performs 'Prayer for Ukraine' on SNL.

[HarmanKardon]

Originally Posted by finnbow

It appears that Germany may have finally shaken some of its pacifism and mercantile views in favor of helping Ukraine. Gott sei Dank.

Von deinem Bundeskanzler:
Der russische Überfall markiert eine Zeitenwende. Es ist unsere Pflicht, die Ukraine nach Kräften zu unterstützen bei der Verteidigung gegen die Invasionsarmee von #Putin. Deshalb liefern wir 1000 Panzerabwehrwaffen und 500 Stinger-Raketen an unsere Freunde in der Ukraine.

I wonder how Gerhard Schröder and other Kremlin apologists/enablers are now feeling about their relationship with Putin and his cronies.

Hello my friend, forgot your name - Pat?

What has happened today in the German Parliament is actually a revolution against everything Germany decided concerning foreign policy since 1945. The annual military budget is 40 billion Euros. Today Scholz announced additional 100 billion Euros for this year.

The Oligarchs are shitting their golden pants. Putin himself gets nervous and is threatening the free world with nuclear force.

This is the beginning of the end of Putin. He will end like Hitler, Mussolini, Ceausescu, Hussein, Gaddhafi and almost all other tyrants in human history. But how many people will lose their life until then?

Folks I'm feeling bad. Very bad.

[HarmanKardon]

Originally Posted by bobabode

https://youtu.be/IjE4_h0t7qI

The Ukrainian choir - Dumka performs 'Prayer for Ukraine' on SNL.

Watched it on CNN today. I got tears in my eyes.