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Old 07-27-2020, 05:14 PM
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By slowing immigration, Trump was the reason why immigrants saw their first raises in decades. How is that "racist and disgusting?" He simply prioritized the people that are here over the people that want to be here.
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Old 07-27-2020, 05:56 PM
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By slowing immigration, Trump was the reason why immigrants saw their first raises in decades. How is that "racist and disgusting?" He simply prioritized the people that are here over the people that want to be here.
I will not reply, as a general rule, to posts that spin reality in a crazy way like this. Argue honestly or don't bother.

You bloody know that isn't the intended effect of Trump's demagoguery against immigrants, and you know that the content of the demagoguery ran to blatant racist shit, not principled policy to slow immigration.

For the benefit of anyone unclear on this (not you, you know), does the phrase "they're sending rapists" ring any bells?
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Old 07-27-2020, 06:46 PM
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In sales that is called a Big Fat Claim.

Care to back it up?
So, you're a salesman?
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Old 07-28-2020, 04:59 AM
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I will not reply, as a general rule, to posts that spin reality in a crazy way like this. Argue honestly or don't bother.
Latinos’ Incomes Higher Than Before Great Recession, but U.S.-Born Latinos Yet to Recover
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Overall gain is driven by rise in share of higher-income immigrants who have lived in the U.S. for more years
...what I said, innit? Consider following your own advice.
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Old 07-28-2020, 06:38 AM
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So, you're a salesman?
I sold commercial real estate in downtown Seattle in the early 80's. The Big Fat Claim and it's usefulness was part of my sales training. I was taught how it can be an effective sales tool - and how it can make you look like an idiot if done wrong.

A lot of people on the internet seem to be going for the latter.
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Old 07-28-2020, 06:42 AM
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For the benefit of anyone unclear on this (not you, you know), does the phrase "they're sending rapists" ring any bells?
It's just an MS-13 thang.

A writer named Fred Reed once spoke on illegal immigrants. He is an american that ex-patriated to mexico and married a Mexican woman. 20 years ago he said that most Mexicans have no more desire to leave their country and illegally go to the US than people in the US want to illegally sneak into Mexico. The ones that do it are the dregs of their culture. i.e. the equivalent of our country's welfare moms, gang members, fatherless boys, etc.

So yeah. Generally speaking, that is who is coming over illegally.
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Old 07-28-2020, 06:44 AM
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I will not reply, as a general rule, to posts that spin reality in a crazy way like this. Argue honestly or don't bother.

You bloody know that isn't the intended effect of Trump's demagoguery against immigrants, and you know that the content of the demagoguery ran to blatant racist shit, not principled policy to slow immigration.

For the benefit of anyone unclear on this (not you, you know), does the phrase "they're sending rapists" ring any bells?
The money quote from the post you are responding to:

"He simply prioritized the people that are here over the people that want to be here."

That is why we elected him. He's not president of the world. He's president of the US. His first priority is those people and businesses that exist inside the US and its territories.

Period.

This is not a difficult concept. At least, it shouldn't be.
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Old 07-28-2020, 01:57 PM
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An alternative explanation why rising cases in border states is much higher than the rest of the country.
Fauci warns Tennessee and others to stem coronavirus trends, saying 'we just can't afford' another surge

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/healt...day/index.html

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Dr. Anthony Fauci on Tuesday warned several states including Tennessee, Ohio, Indiana and Kentucky to get a handle on rising coronavirus cases, saying the nation couldn't afford the kinds of surges seen further south and west.
Pretty much blows up your little conspiracy theory, eh, Bucko? You must feel like a right fool about now...
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Old 07-28-2020, 03:08 PM
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Fauci warns Tennessee and others to stem coronavirus trends, saying 'we just can't afford' another surge

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Dr. Anthony Fauci on Tuesday warned several states including Tennessee, Ohio, Indiana and Kentucky to get a handle on rising coronavirus cases, saying the nation couldn't afford the kinds of surges seen further south and west.

Pretty much blows up your little conspiracy theory, eh, Bucko? You must feel like a right fool about now...
Maybe they could put up a wall to keep them hombres out of Tennessee, Ohio, Indiana and Kentucky?
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Old 07-28-2020, 05:05 PM
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I sold commercial real estate in downtown Seattle in the early 80's. The Big Fat Claim and it's usefulness was part of my sales training. I was taught how it can be an effective sales tool - and how it can make you look like an idiot if done wrong.

A lot of people on the internet seem to be going for the latter.
Why am I not surprised you were a low down lying scum of a salesman? No reputable outfit uses such tactics to sell their wares.
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