Trump Is on Point: The Covid-infected Are Fleeing Mexico…for US Hospitals

[Not Insane]

It's all covered in depth, right here, with LOTS of links supporting the case:

Trump Is on Point: The Covid-infected Are Fleeing Mexico…for US Hospitals

On Wednesday, the president blamed an influx from Mexico, among other sources, for the current outbreak spread. Good, because the cumulative evidence is with Ducey and Trump, according to a content analysis of Mexican and U.S. media reporting, public statements of officials, and hospitalization data. Collectively, it shows that a significant but unknown percentage of severely ill dual Mexican-American citizens, legal permanent residents, and Mexican visa-holders of various sorts infected inside Mexico, and yes, illegal immigrants, in May, began flooding over the California border to escape besieged Baja State hospitals. The Covid refugee flow continued into Arizona border hospitals as the Mexico contagion swept eastward through Sonora, Coahuila, and then to Texas as Tamaulipas hospitals broke down in June and into July. Before this southern wave washed northward, Trump administration officials privately fretted and planned for it. But, when their communications leaked, Latino advocacy groups roundly pilloried them as xenophobic.

Evidence piled to the rafters.

It's worth reading.

[FordGT90]

Leftist sources to support the right:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/07/u...el-centro.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/29/healt...rus/index.html

It makes sense...a constant drip of positive cases.


An alternative explanation why rising cases in border states is much higher than the rest of the country. I figured it was because of air conditioning blowing COVID all over everyone. Probably a combination of both.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by FordGT90

Leftist sources to support the right:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/07/u...el-centro.html
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/29/healt...rus/index.html

It makes sense...a constant drip of positive cases.


An alternative explanation why rising cases in border states is much higher than the rest of the country. I figured it was because of air conditioning blowing COVID all over everyone. Probably a combination of both.

The core problem is that these cases are being used to "prove" there is a big spike in cases AND DEATHS in the US because people are not wearing masks, etc., and then used as a reason to continue locking down and possible locking down even tighter than before.

When, in reality all that needs to be locked down is the border.

[FordGT90]

Originally Posted by Not Insane

When, in reality all that needs to be locked down is the border.

Ahaha...yeah...we can try but we'll always fail, sadly.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by FordGT90

Ahaha...yeah...we can try but we'll always fail, sadly.

I agree. But the key point is that it's the folks crossing in that is increasing the numbers, not the activity of the people already in-country.

My wife and I are 66. We live our lives as if the virus does not exist, just like we do with the flu, the swine flu, the bird flu, ebola, etc. We're fine. When I'm in stores that require a mask (rarely am I in that situation), I just put on my free Costco mask that I cut a bunch of horizontal slits in. I can breathe like itisn't there, and then take it off once I get into the store. If anyone complains, I say I have asthma. They can't ask for details thanks to Hipaa. It is LEGALLY none of their business.

[donquixote99]

^^^depraved disregard for the welfare of others.

[Dondilion]

And the spike in Central Florida, and Georgia?

Anecdotally.
My daughter who is a RN and works in a large hospital in Central Florida says there are hardly any Mexicans in the spike in her area.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

^^^depraved disregard for the welfare of others.

Nope. That's lemmingspeak.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Not Insane

Nope. That's lemmingspeak.

You may come around someday, when the virus strikes home personally for you. Or you may not. For some people, identity/ideology preservation becomes more vital than the preservation of life itself. Rather few of them showed up at at Tulsa, though. The death cult is not as mighty as it's master hoped.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

And the spike in Central Florida, and Georgia?

Anecdotally.
My daughter who is a RN and works in a large hospital in Central Florida says there are hardly any Mexicans in the spike in her area.

Georgia's death count is still flatly within the same numbers. There was no big spike like NY.

But it does speak to this: The virus is a state and local issue, not a national one. How it is affecting a particular state or community should fuel how that state or community responds to it.

And it is important to know that every response brings a cost - culturally and financially. And I hate to be morbid, but it is a compromise. e.g. we know that tens of thousands of americans will be killed on our highways every year, but we still drive. The human cost justifies the cultural benefits.

Another example is the Grand Coulee dam. Builders estimated that one worker would be killed for every million dollars spent. But we still built it. The project cost 45 million, and 40 men died in its construction. And yes, the families of those men suffered. It doesn't mean the dam should not have been built.

We also kill around 250 kids every year transporting them to and from public school, but we still do it because of the benefit to the millions that don't die.

And this virus, when death vs population stats are compared, is a non-event for me. Others think it is somewhat of an event. Still others wear a mask because of how they see the risk. And others even avoid going out at all costs. Each of us gets to make his own decision but, at the end of the day, if you are afraid of the air other people exhale, it is on you, not them, to protect yourself. Get a full face mask with replaceable canisters to ensure you are relatively safe.

But your sensibilities do not trump the sensibilities of others. Breathing is part of being a human. Nobody has the right to control someone else's breathing unless it is on their property.