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Old 06-13-2013, 01:55 PM
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Not yet. From Wiki.

During the Obama Administration, the NSA has officially continued operating under the new FISA guidelines.[3] However, in April 2009 officials at the United States Department of Justice acknowledged that the NSA had engaged in "overcollection" of domestic communications in excess of the FISA court's authority, but claimed that the acts were unintentional and had since been rectified.

ACLU filed a lawsuit on this in 2008 and lost in the SC just this year.
So let's wait for the outcome from this recent lawsuit.
A person in this country is a criminal only when convicted of a crime. From what we know, no person from NSA has been convicted of a crime yet unless Snowden volunteers.
Yeah, I get that. However, I think the whole process needs to be examined. There's a lack of accountability, a lack of responsibility, and way too much opportunity for mischief-making throughout the process. I also strongly suspect that the FISA courts are nothing more than a rubber stamp operation for the Justice Department.

Also, try telling a cop that you were "unintentionally" exceeding the speed limit by 100 mph and see whether or not the cop, or the traffic court, happily excuses your ticket. To suggest that "the acts were unintentional" to me is BS. At some point, and individual of average intelligence understands that what they are doing is just plain wrong.
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