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04-26-2013, 12:52 PM
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Did you read that quote? It's the basis for the ascendancy of government today - the Consititution is meaningless because it's hard to change. Sound familiar?
The hypocritical slaveowning freedom lover? But they expected slavery to die naturally. Wilson was a happy racist many many years later.
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Touch a nerve, did I?
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04-26-2013, 01:25 PM
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I just saw something about the "Decision Points" exhibit. If after they feed you the cherry-picked background information, you make a decision other than what Dubya did, "Bush greeted us on-screen, to tell us how wrong we were in his trademark matter-of-fact way. "Saddam posed too big a risk to ignore...the world was made safer by his removal.' OK then, that settles it — finally."
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/culture...o-game?src=rss
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04-26-2013, 01:38 PM
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I saw that last night as reported by Stephen Colbert. Al Madrigal had a funny skit about it on the Daily Show...
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04-26-2013, 02:00 PM
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[QUOTE=bobabode;155509It strikes me that something has changed for the worse in this great country of ours. The disparity in sharing of our collective labor has gone to the top 1% while the masses labor at a greater productivity than ever before. Meanwhile their cut has remained flat, in reality it has taken three steps back if inflation is factored into the equation. In addition, the worker's hard won right to collective bargaining has been gutted by fiat and base propaganda.[/QUOTE]
Yep, Corporations and the Chamberpot of Commerce and their lobbyists run the government and they have decided that those of us in the 99% must simply shut up, do what we are told and patriotically die when they can no longer get work out of us. The home of the brave and land of the free is now merely one of the playgrounds for the 1%.
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04-26-2013, 02:05 PM
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I might be wrong Pete, but I think you made excuses for the hyprocrite Winston Churchill....re his staunch opposition to Indian Independence.
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Funny I lived through WW II and damned if I recall Winnie saying squat about "free peoples". He did keep the nazis out of England.
When I look at Africa today I really cannot see where kicking out the colonists has done them much good.
If you are a woman in India today I guess you can count yourself free as long as rape does not upset you.
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04-26-2013, 02:39 PM
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Yep, Corporations and the Chamberpot of Commerce and their lobbyists run the government and they have decided that those of us in the 99% must simply shut up, do what we are told and patriotically die when they can no longer get work out of us. The home of the brave and land of the free is now merely one of the playgrounds for the 1%. 
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Yup, welcome to the Gilded Age, once again  . The Youngstown Flood was an abject example of the rich doing whatever they please and phuck the consequences.
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04-26-2013, 02:42 PM
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Yup, welcome to the Gilded Age, once again  . The Youngstown Flood was an abject example of the rich doing whatever they please and phuck the consequences.
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THAT was a messy deal.
http://www.vindy.com/news/2013/mar/2...ide-net-destr/
That's what happens when you build a city and all of it's industry at the bottom of a flood prone valley.
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04-26-2013, 02:47 PM
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and a faulty dam for a private lake and countryclub for the uber rich above it all. Not a natural disaster at all.
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04-26-2013, 02:59 PM
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and a faulty dam for a private lake and countryclub for the uber rich above it all. Not a natural disaster at all.
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Ummm............
The 1913 flood WAS a natural event that affected all of NE Ohio and Western PA. The dams hadn't been built yet. The dams at Milton, Mosquito, Berlin and West Branch were built later to control natural flooding.
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04-26-2013, 03:06 PM
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Just in case any of y'all missed this one from Pete.
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