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Old 04-25-2013, 07:22 PM
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"Faith in America, faith in our tradition of personal responsibility, faith in our institutions, faith in ourselves demand that we recognize the new terms of the old social contract. We shall fulfill them, as we fulfilled the obligation of the apparent Utopia which Jefferson imagined for us in 1776, and which Jefferson, Roosevelt and Wilson sought to bring to realization. We must do so, lest a rising tide of misery, engendered by our common failure, engulf us all. But failure is not an American habit; and in the strength of great hope we must all shoulder our common load."

After reading two thirds of it, I skipped to the end.

It strikes me that something has changed for the worse in this great country of ours. The disparity in sharing of our collective labor has gone to the top 1% while the masses labor at a greater productivity than ever before. Meanwhile their cut has remained flat, in reality it has taken three steps back if inflation is factored into the equation. In addition, the worker's hard won right to collective bargaining has been gutted by fiat and base propaganda.
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Old 04-25-2013, 07:49 PM
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Wilson was hardly a progressive when it came to race...but sadly neither was the rest of the nation at that time. I am glad we have a Federal Reserve to regulate and stimulate our economy ( we would not be major economic power without stable Federal credit and monetarism) and a graduated income tax. I would not throw Wilson completely under the bus.
He did bring us into World War I, and the USA did in fact tip the balance and help end the war. That war killed millions if you do not know. So he was not all bad. Not like Bush anyway
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Old 04-25-2013, 08:12 PM
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BTW what all dem Presidents doing in Texas?

Isn't Texas an Independent Republic with its own money?
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Old 04-25-2013, 08:40 PM
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BTW what all dem Presidents doing in Texas?

Isn't Texas an Independent Republic with its own money?
Don't pick on 'em, Don. Them 'ho down' lovin' idjits cain't help themselves. Besides, they like the attention...
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Old 04-25-2013, 08:45 PM
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The "Decisions Points Theater" exhibit sounds like a cynical exercise in revisionism dressed up as family entertainment. They feed you partial information of the circumstances surrounding several of his big controversial decisions (they obviously don't have the time or resources to feed you other than partial information, not to mention the obvious national security issues if they gave you the real skinny) and you have 4 minutes to make your decision on the issue. I gotta believe it's weighted to rationalize the dreadful decisions he made.
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The "Decisions Points Theater" exhibit sounds like a cynical exercise in revisionism dressed up as family entertainment. They feed you partial information of the circumstances surrounding several of his big controversial decisions (they obviously don't have the time or resources to feed you other than partial information, not to mention the obvious national security issues if they gave you the real skinny) and you have 4 minutes to make your decision on the issue. I gotta believe it's weighted to rationalize the dreadful decisions he made.
Do they have a "Decider Theater" wherein you get to point your finger and shout at 80 year-old Jewish women? How about a "Shame on you...Theater", wherein you have 4 minutes to correct his faux pas? Maybe they could have a shoe toss gallery?

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Old 04-26-2013, 08:39 AM
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Then, thank goodness he's been out of office for 93 years. Can't really blame the arrogant, piece of crap, elitist for any of todays problems.....................Or do you?

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Did you read that quote? It's the basis for the ascendancy of government today - the Consititution is meaningless because it's hard to change. Sound familiar?

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They seem to gloss over the fact that Jefferson was a Democrat. I guess being a "Founding Father" exempts him from the hatefest?

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The hypocritical slaveowning freedom lover? But they expected slavery to die naturally. Wilson was a happy racist many many years later.

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Did you read that quote? It's the basis for the ascendancy of government today - the Consititution is meaningless because it's hard to change. Sound familiar?



The hypocritical slaveowning freedom lover? But they expected slavery to die naturally. Wilson was a happy racist many many years later.

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The only reason the northern colonies agreed to the 3/5th of a person crap was that they either hung together of would hang separately. Gouvernor Morris of Pennsylvania referred to slavery as "an abomination before God".
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Old 04-26-2013, 11:12 AM
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The hypocritical slaveowning freedom lover? But they expected slavery to die naturally. Wilson was a happy racist many many years later.

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I might be wrong Pete, but I think you made excuses for the hyprocrite Winston Churchill....re his staunch opposition to Indian Independence.
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Old 04-26-2013, 11:18 AM
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