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Old 06-28-2012, 02:57 PM
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We'll know when the leviathan tells us

Don't watch Fox very often, occasionally the roundtable and or interviews on Sunday...

I hate being told what I Need To Know by anybody lol.

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Old 06-28-2012, 03:02 PM
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Correct. It's a bad patch quilt that is grossly overpriced and appears will still leave many cold.
It's a start, Ed. Nothing approaching what you and I would want to see could have passed the Congress... either chamber.

Social Security needed to be tweaked repeatedly to get it to where it needed to be, and for the same reason: Republican obstruction.

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Old 06-28-2012, 03:07 PM
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It's a start, Ed. Nothing approaching what you and I would want to see could have passed the Congress... either chamber.

Social Security needed to be tweaked repeatedly to get it to where it needed to be, and for the same reason: Republican obstruction.

John
Yes, I know but it's really a mess and as far as I can see he did not need to make nearly as many concessions as he did as he did not need any republican votes.

If this was Cheney's baby we would have gotten what we wanted.

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Old 06-28-2012, 03:17 PM
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Whell, the fact that ypu even have to ask says a lot about you... and none of it's good.

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The fact that I'm curious is bad? OK John. Whatever.
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:19 PM
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I think many people will be happy to have their kids on an insurance plan till 26....I will if it applies to Tricare (which I do not know if it does or not). Plus many people with pre-existing conditions will too.

As far as concessions he did not need Republican votes but the Blue Dogs and Lieberman were undercutting the Dems on the more progressive aspects.
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Old 06-28-2012, 04:05 PM
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Its a fair point.

So, I'm really quite curious, other than the legislative "victory" by the Dems, for those of you who are happy and celebrating the SCOTUS ruling, what is it that you're celebrating? What do you think will be the result of the PPACA phasing in to its full effect between now and 2018? This of course assumes that there are no further legal or legislative challenges.

What's in it for you?
To start with the majority insured the hospitals will not bill me extra to pay for the uninsured they are compelled to serve.

Then Florence's insurance premium should come down as the insurance companies will not be able to charge women more as they do now.

How come I know most of what is in the bill and you guys don't, need remedial reading class?
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Old 06-28-2012, 06:14 PM
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I really doubt that President Obama will be celebrating the Supreme Courts Passage of Obama Care.

Now that it has passed, every business that considered hiring new or bringing back employees will severely reconsider the costs of this questionable health care plan.

I predict a worsening of our economic situation from now until he is replaced by anyone else. Hopefully in November ?
Congress passed the Affordable Care Act. The Supreme Court rejected a challenge to the constitutionality of that law. I did a search of the opinion, and the term "Obamacare" did not appear once - not a single time.

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Old 06-28-2012, 06:21 PM
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Congress passed the Affordable Care Act. The Supreme Court rejected a challenge to the constitutionality of that law. I did a search of the opinion, and the term "Obamacare" did not appear once - not a single time.

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What's even more curious is the Constitutionalists being so remedial in 10th grade Civics & Government. (or as they like to call it "Civvies and Gubmint"
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Old 06-28-2012, 07:00 PM
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What the hell just happened here? 50 million people will be FORCED to buy
health insurance soon? And their premium amount will be determined by
their income? I smell a communist rat nest.
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Old 06-28-2012, 07:10 PM
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What the hell just happened here? 50 million people will be FORCED to buy
health insurance soon? And their premium amount will be determined by
their income? I smell a communist rat nest.
Think about that. 50 million people do not have health coverage.

That should bother you.
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