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06-28-2012, 12:32 PM
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This is huge!
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06-28-2012, 12:38 PM
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I am still happily in a state of shock! 
I almost wish I cable cable so I could laugh at the lies Faux News will be spewing...Not!!!
Same with Limburger. Not!!!
But instead I will wait until it has been properly analyzed for seriously listening to opinions.
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06-28-2012, 01:08 PM
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06-28-2012, 01:19 PM
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Boy you really attribute Obama with a lot of altruism, I admire that  I'm much more cynical.Pete
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Politically expedient Machiavellian calculation or altruism...it is the end result that matters...always has been.
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06-28-2012, 01:19 PM
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Isn't Megan Kelly a nasty piece of work?
I think MSNBC got it wrong at first as well. That would make Current the only cable news service not to indulge in a little premature ejaculation.
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06-28-2012, 01:25 PM
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So Obama gets to preside over one of the largest expansions of government and one of the largest tax increases in history. Congrats Dems.
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Look at it this way...you may feel down today, but it will not be as bad as you will feel on the first Wednesday of November 2012...so cheer up Whelly
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06-28-2012, 01:30 PM
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If he was really following Machi's footsteps everything would be about a 2nd term
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06-28-2012, 01:47 PM
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I really doubt that President Obama will be celebrating the Supreme Courts Passage of Obama Care.
Now that it has passed, every business that considered hiring new or bringing back employees will severely reconsider the costs of this questionable health care plan.
I predict a worsening of our economic situation from now until he is replaced by anyone else. Hopefully in November ?
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06-28-2012, 01:58 PM
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I really doubt that President Obama will be celebrating the Supreme Courts Passage of Obama Care.
Now that it has passed, every business that considered hiring new or bringing back employees will severely reconsider the costs of this questionable health care plan.
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No, I don't think so.
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Republican Whopper:
‘Job-Killing’ Health Care Law
The truth first: The best economic analysis of the new health care law points to the loss of a “small” number of low-paid jobs — starting in 2014. That’s when firms with 50 or more workers will be required either to provide health insurance coverage to their employees or pay a penalty.
The Congressional Budget Office also says that the law will lead to fewer people who want to work — or who will want to work as many hours as they normally would — because they’ll be better off financially, or won’t feel the need to stay on a job they don’t like just to keep their coverage.
But you would never know that if all you listened to was the constant repetition of the phrase “job-killing” by Republicans bent on repealing the law before it can take full effect.
We first wrote about this back in January, when we noted that House Republicans were attaching the misleading “job-killing” label to the law, and offering only misrepresentations of the evidence to back up their slogan. But the bogus claim has been repeated over and over all year. On Dec. 10, Rep. Michele Bachmann falsely claimed that a study showed the U.S. will “lose 1.6 million jobs over five years if we keep Obamacare” — referring to a business group’s study that did not examine the new law at all, and showed nothing of the sort. And we also found the worst part of Mitt Romney’s first TV spot wasn’t the out-of-context video editing that caused the Obama campaign to label it “dishonest,” but instead was the more substantive claim that the new law is “killing jobs.”
It may be that the constant repetition of this false claim will make a lot of voters believe it. But repeating a whopper doesn’t make it true, it just makes it a bigger whopper.
http://www.factcheck.org/2011/12/the-whoppers-of-2011/
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06-28-2012, 02:03 PM
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And this too
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Job-Killing ‘Small-Business’ Taxes
For years Republicans have been claiming that raising taxes on high-income individuals is equivalent to raising taxes on “small businesses” and thus killing jobs. We first debunked this big exaggeration in 2004, in fact.
This year, House Speaker John Boehner carried the idea to a new extreme with a claim that more than half of those who would be hit by a tax increase on “millionaires” are small-business owners: “the very people that we’re hoping will reinvest in our economy and create jobs.”
That’s rubbish. As we pointed out, only 13 percent of those reporting $1 million or more in income have even one-quarter of their earnings from small-business sources. The truth is that for the vast majority of those making over $1 million a year — a group that includes hedge-fund managers, corporate CEOs, owners of very large businesses and even wealthy coupon-clippers — any small-business income is incidental. Even Boehner’s spokesman admitted later that the speaker had, well, misspoken.
National Public Radio reporter Tamara Keith went searching for business owners who would be affected by the “millionaire” tax, but found that both the House and Senate GOP leadership was “unable to produce a single millionaire job creator for us to interview.” Undaunted, she asked for help from the business groups that have been lobbying against the surtax, but they couldn’t produce any millionaire job creator willing to talk either.
She finally found three who would talk — by cleverly posting a notice on Facebook. But none of them said an increase in the personal tax rate would inhibit them from trying to create jobs, contradicting this GOP whopper. One said, “What my business does is based on the contracts that it wins and the demand for its services,” and not the tax rate the owner pays on profits.
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