Todays job application...

[mpholland]

So I am getting prepared to sell my place and move to the other side of the mountain. The hardest part, as always, is finding employment in rural areas. I decided to submit an application to Nosler, a manufacturer of guns, ammunition, and accessories located here in Bend, with a recently opened facility in Redmond. Their job application says a lot about them. I think I may not even apply after all.

Their statement before even beginning the application, followed by a required supplement.

Applicants

Please Note

Nosler, Inc. is committed to excellence, integrity, and service. We are leaders in the industry, and as such demand excellence from our staff. To be an employee of Nosler, Inc. the following standard MUST apply for each applicant…

- You will need your driver’s license to complete the application
- You will need a completely clean criminal record – this includes DUI and any type of Game Violation
- We are 100% drug free – don’t waste your time filling out the application if you can’t pass a drug test


Required Supplement: Prospective Employee Questionnaire

Do you know what we manufacture at Nosler?

The 2nd Amendment protects the right of the American people to keep and bear arms. What is your view on this?

Are you a member of the National Rifle Association? Yes No

What is your view on Handguns & Assault Rifle platform firearms?

Do you participate in the shooting sports or shooting sports activities?

What is your stance on legalized marijuana?

Have you ever participated in team sports?

[barbara]

Originally Posted by mpholland

So I am getting prepared to sell my place and move to the other side of the mountain. The hardest part, as always, is finding employment in rural areas. I decided to submit an application to Nosler, a manufacturer of guns, ammunition, and accessories located here in Bend, with a recently opened facility in Redmond. Their job application says a lot about them. I think I may not even apply after all.



Their statement before even beginning the application, followed by a required supplement.

Applicants



Please Note

Nosler, Inc. is committed to excellence, integrity, and service. We are leaders in the industry, and as such demand excellence from our staff. To be an employee of Nosler, Inc. the following standard MUST apply for each applicant…



- You will need your driver’s license to complete the application

- You will need a completely clean criminal record – this includes DUI and any type of Game Violation

- We are 100% drug free – don’t waste your time filling out the application if you can’t pass a drug test





Required Supplement: Prospective Employee Questionnaire



Do you know what we manufacture at Nosler?



The 2nd Amendment protects the right of the American people to keep and bear arms. What is your view on this?



Are you a member of the National Rifle Association? Yes No



What is your view on Handguns & Assault Rifle platform firearms?



Do you participate in the shooting sports or shooting sports activities?



What is your stance on legalized marijuana?



Have you ever participated in team sports?

Are they legally able to ask some of those questions?
I'm not an HR expert, but can they disqualify you for personal opinions regarding guns, NRA, and marihuana ?

I always thought that as long as you did your job adequately, you could hold any personal opinion you want to in your private life.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by mpholland

Do you know what we manufacture at Nosler?

The 2nd Amendment protects the right of the American people to keep and bear arms. What is your view on this?

Are you a member of the National Rifle Association? Yes No

What is your view on Handguns & Assault Rifle platform firearms?

Do you participate in the shooting sports or shooting sports activities?

What is your stance on legalized marijuana?

Have you ever participated in team sports?

If I was desperate for a job I'd lie and tell them what I think they want to hear.

But since I'm not, I'd answer "yes" to the first one and "None of your fucking business" to the other six.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by barbara

Are they legally able to ask some of those questions?
I'm not an HR expert, but can they disqualify you for personal opinions regarding guns, NRA, and marihuana ?

I always thought that as long as you did your job adequately, you could hold any personal opinion you want to in your private life.

Here's what I think. They're legally permitted to ask but the applicant isn't legally required to answer. Don't answer, however, and they'll find some reason (or no reason) not to hire that person. Though, there is such a thing as wrongful dismissal, there really isn't much beyond race and gender that would amount to "wrongful failure to hire."

It's interesting to consider whether the employer would be entitled to dismiss an employee if they let their NRA membership lapse.

Marc, forget about those jerks!

[donquixote99]

I would think they'd respect the 'none of your fucking business' answers if they were really the personal freedom advocates they no doubt think they are....

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

I would think they'd respect the 'none of your fucking business' answers if they were really the personal freedom advocates they no doubt think they are....

Of course, if they were such advocates, they wouldn't ask those sorts of questions.

[icenine]

I think employers go way overboard on intrusive questions. I believe credit checks for prospective employees should be against the law. Recently a former co-worker recovering from a medical issue was not re-hired because they failed a "personality test".
Can you believe that ? This was at my part-time civilian hospital. The medical issue was cancer.

No wonder employment is stagnant.

[barbara]

Originally Posted by icenine

I think employers go way overboard on intrusive questions. I believe credit checks for prospective employees should be against the law. Recently a former co-worker recovering from a medical issue was not re-hired because they failed a "personality test".

Can you believe that ? This was at my part-time civilian hospital. The medical issue was cancer.



No wonder employment is stagnant.

That sounds like a lawsuit to me.

[Dondilion]

Since people will lie to get jobs, the company might find it hard to ascertain if it employed a lot of pretenders.

One can just imagine the work area gun hawk conversations.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by barbara

That sounds like a lawsuit to me.

From what I know they were let go because they missed too much work because of the treatment and reconstructive surgery required. I do not think they were full or part time so perhaps disability/worker's comp did not come into play. They applied again recently and I was told by another co-worker that they were not taken back because of the personality test. The supervisors in our department wanted them back but it seems corporate did not. I was told they can retake the test in 4 months.