The Affordable Care Act

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Hmmmmm, how about draconian penalties for corporations that are shown to be willfully part timing their workforces for no other reason than to skirt the law?

No. Single Payer.

Dave

[icenine]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Ha, Ha, Ha!!!!! The sad part is that you're right.

Tell me Robbin; How many retired vets oppose healthcare reform, because they don't trust "Government run Healthcare", but would shit themselves if we threatened to reduce their VA Medical benefits?

I would say about 75-80% do not support it

they do not think of Tricare as government health lol

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

No. Single Payer.

Dave

Agreed. I'll never vote for Obama again since he sold us out.

[icenine]

I myself rated at 0% disability

but that is a rated disability...I do not think the small tax increase hurts me none i.e. applies to me...not sure gotta check


it actually may apply but it is such a small percent of a cola increase that I would not even notice most likely.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by icenine

I would say about 75-80% do not support it

they do not think of Tricare as government health lol

That's what I was thinking. I've run into a few who got a civilian job after retirement, just to get the civilian healthcare plan. Then the deductibles, copays, employee portion of premiums kick in, they find themselves waiting weeks or months for procedures anyways and....................

Well........They see the light.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by icenine

I myself rated at 0% disability

but that is a rated disability...I do not think the small tax increase hurts me none i.e. applies to me...not sure gotta check

If you have to go check; Does it really hurt?

To me, the answer is "No.". I've had that conversation with people too. "Well, my accountant said it's costing me nearly $1.52 a week!"......HOLY SHIT! That much, Huh?

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Agreed. I'll never vote for Obama again since he sold us out.

Yeah, after that last election, I'm done too.

Dave

[icenine]

I guess I am wrong over the years it would decrease my retirement by a few thousand bucks...

but it seems like they are backtracking on it

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...6_billion.html

maybe I will still be on the good end of the stick lol

[whell]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Yeah, but why? There is no sensible reason for them to be doing this, it only causes further damage. This is what needs to be confronted head on, not the ACA.

Dave

At the end of the day, the number one mission for any organization, including government, is to insure its own survival. A business is not going to stand there and involuntarily incur additional costs just because a new gov't plan comes rolling along. The business will do what it needs to do to protect itself from increased costs, since most businesses only have a fixed percentage of revenue to spend on employment costs. Therefore, rather than just take a cost increase, the business reacts. Since the ACA's threat of increased costs can be reduced be expanding the part time work force, that's exactly what businesses (those that have a significant portion of their workforce who work variable hours) are doing.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by whell

At the end of the day, the number one mission for any organization, including government, is to insure its own survival. A business is not going to stand there an involuntarily incur additional costs just because a new gov't plan comes rolling along. The business will do what it needs to do to protect itself from increased costs, since most businesses only have a fixed percentage of revenue to spend on employment costs. Therefore, rather than just take a cost increase, the business reacts. Since the ACA's threat of increased costs can be reduced be expanding the part time work force, that's exactly what businesses (those that have a significant portion of their workforce who work variable hours) are doing.

Time to give these folk some teeth.
http://www.nlrb.gov/