The Affordable Care Act

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Holy shit! The 'risk corridor' deal is a Republican idea? You mean just like the rest of Romneycare?

Nice to see that "sonuvabitch" Henry Waxman D-Ca. is still holding the Repub's feet to the fire! Thanks Carl.

As with Obamacare, the only real problem is that it was passed by the evil Dems. If the GOP can't get full credit for something, they then try to destroy it. Patriots.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

The Post's Milbank made the same mistake. The truth is now well known, but the GOP continues to harp on the loss of 2 million jobs. On my way back from my workout, I turned on the radio to hear Limbaugh ranting about the loss of jobs. The Post now calls GOP talking points on the issue a "fact free zone."

Well, I guess I'd say to the Post that it takes one to know one. Some of the crap in the Post has about as much to do with reality as a Stephen King novel.

Whatever grist has been provided to the mill by the CBO report, there's little doubt in my mind that the ACA has had a significant negative impact on the job market. It certainly is one of the contributing reasons for monthly job growth that fails to significantly decrease unemployment. It is certainly one of the drivers for employers to opt to expand their part time work force while opting not to hire full time employees. None of these trends are positive for job growth, nor the economy.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

As with Obamacare, the only real problem is that it was passed by the evil Dems. If the GOP can't get full credit for something, they then try to destroy it. Patriots.

While you guys are dissing the GOP, can any of you give me a good explanation of what "risk corridors" are, why they exist under Obamacare, and whose paying for them? I dare ya!

[icenine]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Yep, and it's something passed by the entire Congress (including the 'Baggers). Now, they want to force its reinstatement at a cost of $7-8 billion in an effort to compel reduced spending. Only in 'Baggerland does this make sense.

well no one will get upset since it is for the vets...even the Dems will feel compelled to go along

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by whell

While you guys are dissing the GOP, can any of you give me a good explanation of what "risk corridors" are, why they exist under Obamacare, and whose paying for them? I dare ya!

Can you explain why it is so important to them to kill an Act that is utterly loaded with their ideas? Especially in light of the fact that the finally released their "plan" last week and it bears a stark resemblance to the one they're trying to kill? I can explain it in a single word;

Perception.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by icenine

well no one will get upset since it is for the vets...even the Dems will feel compelled to go along

Ha, Ha, Ha!!!!! The sad part is that you're right.

Tell me Robbin; How many retired vets oppose healthcare reform, because they don't trust "Government run Healthcare", but would shit themselves if we threatened to reduce their VA Medical benefits?

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by whell

How could you have foreseen that this one, simple observation would spawn 92 pages of responses?

^ The above is a likely ill fated attempt to bring this thread back on topic.

...and I thank you for your contributions to it Mike. It has been a hoot.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by whell

Well, I guess I'd say to the Post that it takes one to know one. Some of the crap in the Post has about as much to do with reality as a Stephen King novel.

Whatever grist has been provided to the mill by the CBO report, there's little doubt in my mind that the ACA has had a significant negative impact on the job market. It certainly is one of the contributing reasons for monthly job growth that fails to significantly decrease unemployment. It is certainly one of the drivers for employers to opt to expand their part time work force while opting not to hire full time employees. None of these trends are positive for job growth, nor the economy.

Yeah, but why? There is no sensible reason for them to be doing this, it only causes further damage. This is what needs to be confronted head on, not the ACA.

This is why employers should be stripped of any and every influence they have over employee healthcare. They should have no part in it whatsoever. They have these childish reactionary fits that only cause further damage to the situation. Remove the irrational, unnecessary panic from the picture and things will go much more smoothly.

Dave

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Ha, Ha, Ha!!!!! The sad part is that you're right.

Tell me Robbin; How many retired vets oppose healthcare reform, because they don't trust "Government run Healthcare", but would shit themselves if we threatened to reduce their VA Medical benefits?

I suspect we would have to call out the National Guard to quell the uprising of that new age 'Bonus Army'.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Yeah, but why? There is no sensible reason for them to be doing this, it only causes further damage. This is what needs to be confronted head on, not the ACA.

This is why employers should be stripped of any and every influence they have over employee healthcare. They should have no part in it whatsoever. They have these childish reactionary fits that only cause further damage to the situation. Remove the irrational, unnecessary panic from the picture and things will go much more smoothly.

Dave

Hmmmmm, how about draconian penalties for corporations that are shown to be willfully part timing their workforces for no other reason than to skirt the law?