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03-12-2014, 07:39 PM
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Indeed. And the American Democratic party is probably further to the right than any governing conservative party in any industrialized country in the world (e.g., the CDU/SPD coalition in Germany).
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And in pre-Columbian thought the republican party would no longer exist as they would have gone over the edge already.
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03-13-2014, 09:08 AM
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What, me worry?
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You raise an interesting point, and certainly one can imagine a non-totalitarian communist country. One can imagine non-totalitarian market so(c)ialism even more easily. But I think the biggest thing leading to totalitarian communist countries was the radical nature of the transition from private ownership to state ownership. This can hardly be accomplished except by a revolutionary government that has swept away all opposition and gathered all power to itself. And having total control, it never relinquishes it.
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One might imagine it....  One party rule has to be totalitarian to stay that way.
Another paradox, the communist plan says the communist government would eventually fade away as no government is needed.
Pete
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03-13-2014, 12:07 PM
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One might imagine it....  One party rule has to be totalitarian to stay that way.
Another paradox, the communist plan says the communist government would eventually fade away as no government is needed.
Pete
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Yeh, just death squads.
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03-13-2014, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
Communist is an extreme and mud-laden term.
Has Conyers endorsed the nationalization of all industry and real estate? One-party rule with a gulag for anybody suspected of opposition?
Or are you playing McCarthy?
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Clearly, if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, goes to meetings with ducks, is called a duck by fellow ducks, its very likely a duck. For example:
http://www.cpusa.org/convention-disc...h-care-reform/
"We also turned away from our allies in Congress, the Progressive Caucus, and John Conyers."
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03-13-2014, 09:51 PM
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If the British call us an ally, does that make us British?
If the CPUSA calls YOU an ally, does that make you a Communist?
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03-13-2014, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
Clearly, if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, goes to meetings with ducks, is called a duck by fellow ducks, its very likely a duck. For example:
http://www.cpusa.org/convention-disc...h-care-reform/
"We also turned away from our allies in Congress, the Progressive Caucus, and John Conyers."
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Gasp!! Those commie bastards mentioned Conyers by name so he must be one of them!
As usual, your link doesn't add any support to your smear.
John
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03-14-2014, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
If the British call us an ally, does that make us British?
If the CPUSA calls YOU an ally, does that make you a Communist?
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Hell, we were allies of the Soviet Union in WWII. That makes every one of the "greatest generation" a communist, from Ike to George Patton to Douglas McArthur (to my dad).
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03-14-2014, 07:51 AM
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I love Communists. Like Fascist right-wing flakes, they are very entertaining to watch. I just don't want them running my country.
Dave
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03-14-2014, 10:56 AM
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The biggest challenge that "the left" has in the political arena is that they can't be honest about who they are, generally speaking.
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LOL... I can't tell you how many republicans blindly supported GW Bush during his disastrous tenure, then claimed he was really a democrat once he was ousted.....
Honesty issues or simple dementia?
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03-14-2014, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
If the British call us an ally, does that make us British?
If the CPUSA calls YOU an ally, does that make you a Communist?
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No.
The probability certainly goes up.
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