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03-12-2014, 01:33 PM
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BTW, how and when did the Democratic Party came to be called Democrat Party? I hear this usually on right wing radio.
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When you say "Democrat" you get to end the word with "rat", get it? Those Republicans are so clever!
It actually started with Newt but Frank Luntz, the right wing messaging guru, was the one who told elected Republicans to use it exclusively. Infantile and effective.
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03-12-2014, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
"The Left" in the US is completely without representation in the political arena.
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The biggest challenge that "the left" has in the political arena is that they can't be honest about who they are, generally speaking. I'd suggest that, on one hand, many of the CA House members are pretty far left. But, even in a left-leaning state like CA, if many of them were to come out publicly and proclaimed the aligned with the political "left", some of them would become unpopular in a hurry.
Over on the east coast, Markey or McGovern in MA don't publicly let their lefty freak flags fly, but their public positions on most issues wouldn't never be mistaken for the products of the Heritage Foundation.
On the other hand, here locally, if John Conyers came out publicly as a communist, no one would be surprised.
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03-12-2014, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by piece-itpete
I agree that our left isn't very leftish as the world goes. However regarding the OWS, they certainly played to the Dems in the election. Or would they vote for Romney?
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Pete I was a member of the Joe Clark Conservative Party in Canada and the Democratic Party is to the right of me. I hear the words liberal and soci@list bandied about down here and you guys would not recognize either one if they bit you on the arse.
Your Republicans call themselves Conservative which is pure BS as most of them make Ayn Rand look like a commie.
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03-12-2014, 01:46 PM
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LOL! But you accidentally put 'ic' on the Democrat party
Pete
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03-12-2014, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
The biggest challenge that "the left" has in the political arena is that they can't be honest about who they are, generally speaking. I'd suggest that, on one hand, many of the CA House members are pretty far left. But, even in a left-leaning state like CA, if many of them were to come out publicly and proclaimed the aligned with the political "left", some of them would become unpopular in a hurry.
Over on the east coast, Markey or McGovern in MA don't publicly let their lefty freak flags fly, but their public positions on most issues wouldn't never be mistaken for the products of the Heritage Foundation.
On the other hand, here locally, if John Conyers came out publicly as a communist, no one would be surprised. 
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Communist is an extreme and mud-laden term.
Has Conyers endorsed the nationalization of all industry and real estate? One-party rule with a gulag for anybody suspected of opposition?
Or are you playing McCarthy?
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03-12-2014, 02:00 PM
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Any OWS people in congress?
I think the Democratic Party realized they were, for the most part, just a bunch of rowdy college kids when the unions attempted to get involved and saw what it was and that it was doomed to become an embarrassment. Something they had prior bad experience with in the 1960s & '70s. (No offense, Bob.)
As for the Tea Party, I'm thinkin' the GOP saw the age of the supporters and saw the opportunity to pick up lots of reliable voters. However, they didn't realize those voters would offer up candidates that had multiple screws loose and intended to turn on their host.
Dave
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03-12-2014, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
Communist is an extreme and mud-laden term.
Has Conyers endorsed the nationalization of all industry and real estate? One-party rule with a gulag for anybody suspected of opposition?
Or are you playing McCarthy?
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Playing? I don't think so.
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03-12-2014, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
When you say "Democrat" you get to end the word with "rat", get it? Those Republicans are [i]so]/i] clever!
It actually started with Newt but Frank Luntz, the right wing messaging guru, was the one who told elected Republicans to use it exclusively. Infantile and effective.
John
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Newt is a man I have come to detest. A sinister, lying, cheating, holier than thou SOB. Thanks for the info.
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03-12-2014, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
Any OWS people in congress?
I think the Democratic Party realized they were, for the most part, just a bunch of rowdy college kids when the unions attempted to get involved and saw what it was and that it was doomed to become an embarrassment. Something they had prior bad experience with in the 1960s & '70s. (No offense, Bob.)
As for the Tea Party, I'm thinkin' the GOP saw the age of the supporters and saw the opportunity to pick up lots of reliable voters. However, they didn't realize those voters would offer up candidates that had multiple screws loose and intended to turn on their host.
Dave
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None taken Dave. My membership in the Youth International Party expired in '75 when I voted for the peanut farmer.
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03-12-2014, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bobabode
None taken Dave. My membership in the Youth International Party expired in '75 when I voted for the peanut farmer.
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I actually went with another McCarthy that year (actually '76) - Clean Gene.
Regards,
D-Ray
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