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05-24-2012, 07:43 AM
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What, me worry?
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Men are dogs
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Originally Posted by wgrr
The "Just Say No" campaign which started the war on drugs has done a hell of a lot more damage to this country than the First Ladies attempts to get kids and adults to eat healthier.
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The war on drugs has been around a lot longer than Just Say No, fyi.
Pete
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05-24-2012, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by bhunter
The problem is who ought make these decisions: government bureaucrats or individuals. Do you enjoy being nudged along like cattle being prodded? I find it dehumanizing and morally repugnant, thus, the notion that the best government is one that doesn't entwine itself in the lives of citizens.
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As bhunter clutches his pearls and heads towards the fainting couch.
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05-24-2012, 08:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piece-itpete
Men are dogs
The war on drugs has been around a lot longer than Just Say No, fyi.
Pete
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It was put on steroids in 1980's.
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05-24-2012, 09:18 AM
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What, me worry?
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The war on drugs was on drugs?
And now, all our snacks are 'Fun Size'
Pete
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"America is still a land of promise, especially during a political campaign."
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05-24-2012, 09:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piece-itpete
The war on drugs was on drugs?
And now, all our snacks are 'Fun Size'
Pete
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lol
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05-24-2012, 09:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bhunter
The problem is who ought make these decisions: government bureaucrats or individuals.
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Hey government bureacrats are people too!
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05-24-2012, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by d-ray657
Just thinking about the difference between Michelle's health eating campaign, and Nancy's "Just say no." No one ever got thirty years in prison for selling a candy bar.
Regards,
D-Ray
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I'm not a fan of Nancy and her program either.
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05-24-2012, 01:13 PM
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Loyal Opposition
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Originally Posted by bhunter
I'm not a fan of Nancy and her program either.
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One of the phrases I hear college age kids saying a lot fits here: "Fair enough." While I disagree with many of your positions, you do manage to avoid taking positions purely on partisan grounds.
Regards,
D-Ray
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05-24-2012, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by icenine
Hey government bureacrats are people too!
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Are you sure? I view bureaucrats more as an institution than individual people. An institution that by design seeks to remove any individuality out of individuals such that the body of bureaucratic rules (regulations) make people subservient to the monolothic bureaucratic structure. "Eichmann In Jerusalem" by Haanah Arendt and "Bureaucracy" by Ludwig von Mises are a couple of salient works. Arendt's work is excellent.
Here's a synopsis from Wikipedia:
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Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil (1963), she coined the phrase "the banality of evil" to describe Eichmann. She raised the question of whether evil is radical or simply a function of thoughtlessness, a tendency of ordinary people to obey orders and conform to mass opinion without a critical evaluation of the consequences of their actions and inaction.
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05-24-2012, 01:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by merrylander
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines."
Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Ironically, that is precisely the problem with bureaucracies, and is, BTW, one of my favorite Emerson quotes.
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