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Old 05-24-2012, 07:43 AM
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The "Just Say No" campaign which started the war on drugs has done a hell of a lot more damage to this country than the First Ladies attempts to get kids and adults to eat healthier.
The war on drugs has been around a lot longer than Just Say No, fyi.

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Old 05-24-2012, 08:02 AM
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The problem is who ought make these decisions: government bureaucrats or individuals. Do you enjoy being nudged along like cattle being prodded? I find it dehumanizing and morally repugnant, thus, the notion that the best government is one that doesn't entwine itself in the lives of citizens.
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Old 05-24-2012, 08:08 AM
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The war on drugs has been around a lot longer than Just Say No, fyi.

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Old 05-24-2012, 09:18 AM
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The war on drugs was on drugs?

And now, all our snacks are 'Fun Size'

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Old 05-24-2012, 09:19 AM
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The war on drugs was on drugs?

And now, all our snacks are 'Fun Size'

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Old 05-24-2012, 09:33 AM
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The problem is who ought make these decisions: government bureaucrats or individuals.

Hey government bureacrats are people too!
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:01 PM
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Just thinking about the difference between Michelle's health eating campaign, and Nancy's "Just say no." No one ever got thirty years in prison for selling a candy bar.

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Old 05-24-2012, 01:13 PM
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I'm not a fan of Nancy and her program either.
One of the phrases I hear college age kids saying a lot fits here: "Fair enough." While I disagree with many of your positions, you do manage to avoid taking positions purely on partisan grounds.

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Old 05-24-2012, 01:20 PM
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Hey government bureacrats are people too!
Are you sure? I view bureaucrats more as an institution than individual people. An institution that by design seeks to remove any individuality out of individuals such that the body of bureaucratic rules (regulations) make people subservient to the monolothic bureaucratic structure. "Eichmann In Jerusalem" by Haanah Arendt and "Bureaucracy" by Ludwig von Mises are a couple of salient works. Arendt's work is excellent.

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Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil (1963), she coined the phrase "the banality of evil" to describe Eichmann. She raised the question of whether evil is radical or simply a function of thoughtlessness, a tendency of ordinary people to obey orders and conform to mass opinion without a critical evaluation of the consequences of their actions and inaction.
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:34 PM
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"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines."

Ralph Waldo Emerson
Ironically, that is precisely the problem with bureaucracies, and is, BTW, one of my favorite Emerson quotes.
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