I hope this has not already been posted. I find it very disturbing

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Boy reading comprehension is really at a low point here.

Pete asked me if I was planning concealed carry.

I said not beyond the boundary of our property.

We mind our own business and trust tha6t others will

We enjoy our peace and quiet.

If you were to get in my face and I were to kill you it seems rather obvious to me that you would be in my home or on my land illegally as this is the only place I could legally have a gun with me. I am in the habit of telling trespassers that they have 30 seconds to leave (which I did not mention) but is this not what the "castle laws" are all about?

Wasn't referring to you. Just conversatin' in general.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

I'm still not absolutely certain myself, although I'm pretty sure it may have been a factor.

Bottomline, Noon; A lot of white folk are thinking the claims of prejudice is just more "playing the race card" by the likes of Sharpton and Obama.......They will make that assumption automatically. It's in their programming to assume everything is a sinister left wing plot now.

Dave

Dave, you have hit on something here and I would like to elaborate.

A lot of people, including myself, see this as no more than playing the "race"card.

For political purposes.

If George Zimmerman is a "Dirty Harry wannabe", why is Trayvon, "the No Limit Nigga" not a "gangster wannabee"?

As far as I'm concerned, this is about the most despicable demonstration of dirty politics I've ever witnessed.

That's my honest opinion, and it is also my opinion to cool the rhetoric before the cities go up in flames.

The courts will decide this, no sense if making things worse.

Chas

[Charles]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Boy reading comprehension is really at a low point here.

Pete asked me if I was planning concealed carry.

I said not beyond the boundary of our property.

We mind our own business and trust tha6t others will

We enjoy our peace and quiet.

If you were to get in my face and I were to kill you it seems rather obvious to me that you would be in my home or on my land illegally as this is the only place I could legally have a gun with me. I am in the habit of telling trespassers that they have 30 seconds to leave (which I did not mention) but is this not what the "castle laws" are all about?

Rob, you're getting sucked into this mindless discussion just like myself.

And I thought I was smarter that that. Apparently I've overestimated my intelligence.

Hell, if I were you, I think I'd just buy a riot gun and a German Shepard, and tell the world to kiss my ass.

Always liked Shepards. They always exhibited more personality than than the rest of the mean dogs.

Chas

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Charles

Dave, you have hit on something here and I would like to elaborate.

A lot of people, including myself, see this as no more than playing the "race"card.

For political purposes.

If George Zimmerman is a "Dirty Harry wannabe", why is Trayvon, "the No Limit Nigga" not a "gangster wannabee"?

As far as I'm concerned, this is about the most despicable demonstration of dirty politics I've ever witnessed.

That's my honest opinion, and it is also my opinion to cool the rhetoric before the cities go up in flames.

The courts will decide this, no sense if making things worse.

Chas

I should have elaborated further. 'Cuz what I've been thinking is that everyone has a card to play these days. Rev. Al and his Buddies whip out the "race card" in a flash. But, it can also say that the counterreaction has become knee jerk as well. If you follow me. And, I don't know. Maybe Trayvon was a "gangsta wannabe"......A lotta young blac.....hell, White, Asain and Latino kids these days, are wannbe gangstas. And maybe Zimmermann was just a concerned citizen.......

But, I know who was armed and advised that his services were no longer needed. But, he persisted anyways. This is why I suspect it may be what think it might be. We had them here. We shut them down. 'Cuz they was Barney Fife sans the badge.

Yep. Everyone just needs to chill and let the courts do their work. It is going to court isn't it?

A side note; I'm just bored and yakking with other bored people who just want something to BS about. I can't send no one ta jail............

So, lighten up.

Dave

[CarlV]

IMO, Zimmerman was playing Dirty Harry and the kid was going home with his snacks. If G.Z. did not mess with him at all nothing would have happened, he really was going to his Dad's place.
But the news people have edited the phone calls so they are deceptive unless you listen to the whole thing you draw a different conclusion from it. NBC fired their local editor for fudging their release of the tape.

From my chair I see most likely manslaughter. And I also see the NRA not wanting to set a precedent and pulling every dirty trick in the book to do so. Just like their XXXXX is coming for your gun campaigns they run.
I sure wouldn't want to be GW, living life without my name being cleared and never knowing if and when an equal play vigilante will show up.
As far as riots and such, let them happen, so what. If they really wanted to avoid trouble they would bring charges, set bail and let him go.



Carl

[CarlV]

I tried to go back in this thread and find the link for the whole 911 tape and it seems they removed this public information from you tube.

Originally Posted by CarlV

Somebody had been calling for help before the shot, there is enough that they should be able to verify whether it was Zimmerman or the kid.


Trayvon Martin 911 Tape on you tube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj4RHJ0taoc

Dunno about all this hoodie business. Sure the kids around here wear them but so does my 56 year old next door neighbor. a bright yellow one, my dad wore them too.


Carl

[Charles]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

I should have elaborated further. 'Cuz what I've been thinking is that everyone has a card to play these days. Rev. Al and his Buddies whip out the "race card" in a flash. But, it can also say that the counterreaction has become knee jerk as well. If you follow me. And, I don't know. Maybe Trayvon was a "gangsta wannabe"......A lotta young blac.....hell, White, Asain and Latino kids these days, are wannbe gangstas. And maybe Zimmermann was just a concerned citizen.......

But, I know who was armed and advised that his services were no longer needed. But, he persisted anyways. This is why I suspect it may be what think it might be. We had them here. We shut them down. 'Cuz they was Barney Fife sans the badge.

Yep. Everyone just needs to chill and let the courts do their work. It is going to court isn't it?

A side note; I'm just bored and yakking with other bored people who just want something to BS about. I can't send no one ta jail............

So, lighten up.

Dave

I'll lighten up, that's what I was doing. Actually, I was trying to agree with you.

People such as myself DO see this as a race baiting issue. The point I was trying to make was the point that you were correct.

Now there is a certain debate that Zimmerman was advised that he didn't need to follow the suspect, and he responded "OK". And he was in the process of leaving whenever he was assaulted.

I wasn't there, and I don't know.

I'm reaching for common ground. Since none of us were there, and none of us know what actually happened, is it necessary to besmirch Zimmermans character?

Hell, if he actually shot some kid for having a bag of Skittles, I'd be the first to hang him by the balls from a sour apple tree.

But as you pointed out, folks such as myself smell a big political rat.

And, IMHO, we have every right to be suspicious, as this isn't the first time down the Prim Rose Path for us.

I'm just trying to be honest. And to be honest, if someone was about to kill you, wouldn't you use any means at hand to prevent it?

And once again, I see this issue as a regional shooting being thrust on the national stage as politics.

And I don't see this as a knee jerk response on my part. I just want to see the chips fall as they may.

And be assured, I'm the last one to defend a cold blooded killer.

Chas

[Charles]

Originally Posted by CarlV

IMO, Zimmerman was playing Dirty Harry and the kid was going home with his snacks. If G.Z. did not mess with him at all nothing would have happened, he really was going to his Dad's place.
But the news people have edited the phone calls so they are deceptive unless you listen to the whole thing you draw a different conclusion from it. NBC fired their local editor for fudging their release of the tape.

From my chair I see most likely manslaughter. And I also see the NRA not wanting to set a precedent and pulling every dirty trick in the book to do so. Just like their XXXXX is coming for your gun campaigns they run.
I sure wouldn't want to be GW, living life without my name being cleared and never knowing if and when an equal play vigilante will show up.
As far as riots and such, let them happen, so what. If they really wanted to avoid trouble they would bring charges, set bail and let him go.



Carl

As far as riots and such, let them happen, so what?

Are you insane?

Chas

[BlueStreak]

Oh yeah, definitely politics. True dat.

Dave

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Oh yeah, definitely politics. True dat.

Dave

No doubt, I'm all for letting this one simmer on the back burner. Let's wait and see what the Grand Jury has to say. Fuck it, I'm thinkin' I'll bow out of this one as it's not getting anywhere. Time for some hillbilly heroin and a nap. Happy Easter y'all.