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07-16-2015, 03:15 PM
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On my mothers side I had a grandmother and her two brothers that were slaves to German immigrants. My grandmother was forced to bear child by her slaveholder while her same slaveholder also owned her two brothers and they lived a short life because they were forced to pull a plow and were beaten when they would tire. Irish, white as snow they were.
On my dads side, I had a grandfather who himself and all five of his brothers were marched off to fight the union army and he was the only one to survive. If not for him, I wouldn't be here. Perhaps that would make yall happy.
But hell no, I don't tell people they are racist for their flag. If I took a notion to hang one I'd damn very well sure do it if I wanted to so therefor I do not label everyone racist for it.
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07-16-2015, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
I've lived in the south for 29 years now. It's the fucking truth. Just because YOU refuse to face it, doesn't make it a lie.
Do YOU see?
Fuck that rag. It represents evil. If you were strong enough to face the truth, you would be ASHAMED of it. You SHOULD be ashamed of it.
Having said that; I do not believe in banning it as it is protected speech as loathsome as it may be. In fact, I have as yet to hear of any serious effort to ban it and I suspect all of the hullabaloo is another baseless meme of the right, meant to divide and incite us.
Sad to see YOU and so many others have fallen for it.
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Two men should be ashamed of sucking a dick Dave, but I do not stand in their way!
We tolerate a Fucking Hell Of A Lot and still get called everything but worthy goddammit!
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07-16-2015, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
Identity is the enemy.
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Yes, it certainly is. I have enjoyed living in Virginia and plan to continue doing so into the foreseeable future. The only "Southerners" I find obnoxious are the ones who insist upon staying mired in the putrid muck of the past. Fortunately, those types seem to be dying off and good riddance to them. Although this latest turn of events does seem to be fostering a divide once again.
Some turds simply refuse to flush.
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07-16-2015, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by hillbilly
Two men should be ashamed of sucking a dick Dave, but I do not stand in their way!
We tolerate a Fucking Hell Of A Lot and still get called everything but worthy goddammit!
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Comparing Confederate pride to homosexual fellatio..... You said it, not me.
Oh, I know, I've heard all about how oppressed and abused Southern Whites are. It truly is shocking, the poor victimized dears. Watching the horrors of it truly is heartbreaking. (You have GOT to be joking.  )
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07-16-2015, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
Comparing Confederate pride to homosexual fellatio..... You said it, not me.
Oh, I know, I've heard all about how oppressed and abused Southern Whites are. It truly is shocking, the poor victimized dears. Watching the horrors of it truly is heartbreaking. (You have GOT to be joking.  )
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Joking Dave? Seriously? Just because they were not black they meant nothing?
Well fuck you!
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07-16-2015, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by hillbilly
On my mothers side I had a grandmother and her two brothers that were slaves to German immigrants. My grandmother was forced to bear child by her slaveholder while her same slaveholder also owned her two brothers and they lived a short life because they were forced to pull a plow and were beaten when they would tire. Irish, white as snow they were.
On my dads side, I had a grandfather who himself and all five of his brothers were marched off to fight the union army and he was the only one to survive. If not for him, I wouldn't be here. Perhaps that would make yall happy.
But hell no, I don't tell people they are racist for their flag. If I took a notion to hang one I'd damn very well sure do it if I wanted to so therefor I do not label everyone racist for it.
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The flag represents the Confederacy. Ever read the Confederate constitution? Those people were all about protecting, preserving and advancing slavery into any territories acquired by the Confederacy into the future. Specifically named is "negroe slavery". There is mention of "....others held in service", that's true. But, "Negroes" were the primary victims of that system. I call that "racism".
Stop handing me this "the flag doesn't represent racism" bullshit. It does. It always has.
It belongs in a museum with all of the other defeated symbols of inhumanity and tyranny.
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07-16-2015, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by hillbilly
Joking Dave? Seriously? Just because they were not black they meant nothing?
Well fuck you!
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"....are..." Dave. Pay attention to the details. Do you consider yourself a victim of anti-Southern White hatred?
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07-16-2015, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
Oh, I know, I've heard all about how oppressed and abused Southern Whites are. It truly is shocking, the poor victimized dears. Watching the horrors of it truly is heartbreaking. (You have GOT to be joking.  )
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A study finds that the majority of Caucasians believe that anti-white racism is a “bigger problem” than what African Americans face...
An astounding 11% of Caucasian respondents assigned the maximum rating of 10 to the seriousness of anti-white discrimination. Compare that with only 2% who reported the same of anti-black racism. Caucasians, the study found, often believe that racial equality is “a zero sum game,” where one group gains at the expense of others.
http://politicalblindspot.com/study-...can-americans/
Pretty amazing stuff.  I suppose when one feeds their mind with Fox News and talk radio, they end up fervently believing some pretty crazy shit.
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07-16-2015, 03:56 PM
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Whole lotta mind readin' goin' on heah!
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07-16-2015, 03:58 PM
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I honestly don't know how any real work gets done any more, what with everyone checking to see what color and what everyone else is doing/thinking/believing.
But maybe that's just us and the rest of the world is whirring away, nose to the grindstone . . .
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