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07-03-2012, 06:14 PM
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I'm sorry but it's kinda obvious to me that false equivalence is your doctrine du jour, Whell. Maybe you are just myopic and need a new prescription? 
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Pretty much the same logic that Dems have been using for years to justify their agenda. Just tryin' to speak your language, Bob.
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07-03-2012, 06:22 PM
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Pretty much the same logic that Dems have been using for years to justify their agenda. Just tryin' to speak your language, Bob. 
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Windbagisms aside, of course. try again....
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07-03-2012, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
We've been in a recession in MI almost constantly since the mid 1970's. You're not suggesting that if a hurricane comes though Florida or Texas that the recession plagued Michigan folks, including the laid-off UAW guys and gals, have an obligation to bail out all those rich plastic surgeons and old barons, are you?
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In a word, and Ayn Rand notwithstanding, yes. It's what being a caring and ordered society is all about.
As opposed to being a collection of self-serving individuals who happen to be in close geographical proximity to one another.
John
Last edited by Boreas; 07-03-2012 at 07:27 PM.
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07-03-2012, 07:15 PM
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I used Michigan as an example, since I live here. Sorry if you don't like that. 
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I am sorry I did not put it across well....I mean you see the recession as more of a state problem and not a national one. The effects sadly are local, but I am surprised that you would feel bad that federal monies from other states would be used to help yours. I did not mean that you think of Michigan in a greedy way...not my intention. You sort of imply that Michigan should get out of the recession on its own without Federal help....I feel that whatever works should be done whether at the local, state, or national level.
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07-04-2012, 07:20 AM
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You do know that they are referring to Barack Obama Sr., right Pete?  
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Come on Bob, you don't expect that he would miss a chance to diss the Prez.
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07-04-2012, 10:14 AM
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Back to the premise of the OP. I would be surprised if the House could actually fashion any piece of cogent and meaningful legislation. At best, it will be a symbolic vote. At worst, they'll get tied in knots trying to do anything. In the end, it matters not as the Senate won't play along, not to mention Obama. It seems to me that the GOP is only good at symbolic hissy-fits and nothing more.
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07-04-2012, 01:22 PM
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So, you've noticed that too?
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07-04-2012, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
Back to the premise of the OP. I would be surprised if the House could actually fashion any piece of cogent and meaningful legislation. At best, it will be a symbolic vote. At worst, they'll get tied in knots trying to do anything. In the end, it matters not as the Senate won't play along, not to mention Obama. It seems to me that the GOP is only good at symbolic hissy-fits and nothing more.
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Probably the Supreme Court upholding the PPACA has them swooning from the vapors. They'll get over it. Could there be a pill for that?
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07-04-2012, 03:12 PM
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Probably the Supreme Court upholding the PPACA has them swooning from the vapors. They'll get over it.
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Actually, I don't think they will. It'll be the right wing's new bloody shirt that the Republicans will wave at them every two years at election time, just like they have with the abortion issue. The key will be in never actually doing anything about it so it's always available to them whenever they want to stir up the trogs.
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07-04-2012, 03:16 PM
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Actually, I don't think they will. It'll be the right wing's new bloody shirt that the Republicans will wave at them every two years at election time, just like they have with the abortion issue. The key will be in never actually doing anything about it so it's always available to them whenever they want to stir up the trogs.
John
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 You know how it works......welfare, abortion, all of the xenophobic and homophobic rhetoric....tools, and nothing more. It's all about the money, John.
Dave
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