Speaker wants to rip PPACA out by the roots

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by Boreas

I think it was more like stark terror at the prospect of leaving office with the economy in free-fall. Bad for his legacy.

John

Like I said, a death-bed conversion. He recognized it as his only chance at a decent after-life (for his presidency).

Regards,

D-Ray

[d-ray657]

I wonder how different the dollars in vs. dollars out comparison would look if the industrial military complex were taken out of the equation?

Regards,

D-Ray

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

I wonder how different the dollars in vs. dollars out comparison would look if the industrial military complex were taken out of the equation?

Regards,

D-Ray

Yeah, just what I was thinking when I mentioned the government presence in Maryland and Virginia.

John

[wgrr]

Originally Posted by Boreas

The casino magnate who single-handedly financed the newt's primary campaign (maybe a few of Calista's shopping trips too) and who ponied up 100 mill for Rmoney? Not new at all. Where ya been, Whell?

John

He also owns the Sands casino in Macau China. So some of the money going to Romney is from China. Also, Adelson has recently been accused of green lighting a loan sharking and prostitution ring in his China casino. He denies it, of course, but I tend to believe that he would do anything to make money. Prostitution is legal in Macau and I doubt he would own a casino in China if he wasn't tied in with the Chinese mob and the local police.

To top it off he is only backing the Republicans because he wants the US to enter a war with Iran. He could give a damn about the US. He actually said he regretted wearing the American military uniform and he wants his son to be a sniper in the Israeli army. He is nothing more than a bitter billionaire Conservative Jew.

Yep, there is no way unlimited campaign contributions could ever corrupt our political process. Adelson will expect a return favor if Willard is elected. That would be to gin up a war with Iran as I have already mentioned.

Food for thought.

[wgrr]

Originally Posted by Boreas

"Top recipients" in raw terms or in terms of what they receive vs. what they pay out?

I'd like to see your source for that.

Never mind. Here it is.

Virginia is 10th, Maryland is 18th and DC isn't really considered since it's a federal district.

Wrong again, Whell.

Do you actually believe the things you write or do you just pull them out of your ass and hope nobody checks?

Oh, and the People's Republic of California? That sink hole of liberalism? Forty-third, a net donor to the federal coffers.

John

Blue states pay taxes in and red states suck it up.

The reason Maryland, DC, and Virginia are fairly high on the list is that is were most of the Federal workers live.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by wgrr

The reason Maryland, DC, and Virginia are fairly high on the list is that is were most of the Federal workers live.

Got nothing to do with the workers unless their wages and salaries are considered "federal spending" in the states where they live. On the other hand, all the government facilities in those states suck up real estate and infrastructure and pay no taxes.

John

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

No, the New Deal didn't work. Apparently the way to pull out of depressions is to fight world wars

Pete

Aaaa stimulus spending gone wild! Plus well over 100% GDP to boot.....



Barney

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by Boreas

I think it was more like stark terror at the prospect of leaving office with the economy in free-fall. Bad for his legacy.

John

What a time to wake up and smell the coffee! Seven and a half years to late BTW.



Barney

[whell]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Since when is D.C. a state Whell? I must've missed this momentous occassion.

I didn't call them a state. I called them a top recipient. Remedial reading may be in order for you.

Originally Posted by bobabode

There are 48 others states besides Md. & Va. which are blue and red respectively. Where are your stats for the rest? More simpleminded false equivalence? I'm sure you'll pout and claim that you're not doing my homework for me but it is you that offers up the D.C. (not a state) Md. Va. example to refute someone else's assertion that it is your red states that suck more at the public teat than the blue states. Comment?

I wasn't factoring red and blue states into the equation. That's your gig, not mine. I only pointed out DC, MD and VA given their locus to that money cesspool which is our Federal Gov't.

[whell]

Originally Posted by bobabode

So when did Michigan suffer anything like what the traditionally exposed states like the, let me guess, the whole Gulf coast, Florida, all of tornado alley, California (lots o shakey ground) Alaska, Texas (all over), Colorado (in the last few days) ? On and on I could go but I think you get the point. Why do you stop at 20 years? Maybe prior to 20 years Michigan got too much snow?

We've been in a recession in MI almost constantly since the mid 1970's. You're not suggesting that if a hurricane comes though Florida or Texas that the recession plagued Michigan folks, including the laid-off UAW guys and gals, have an obligation to bail out all those rich plastic surgeons and old barons, are you?