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#31
06-03-2011, 01:47 PM
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Having killed more than my share of deer with all sorts of weapons (modern firearm, blackpowder and bow), the mess made by a high velocity jacketed hollow-point style bullet is devastating. It doesn't drill pretty little holes in things. All three of my kids have been shooting guns since before they were 10 years old and the two boys each got their first deer at 10 and 12, respectively. Field dressing a deer that has been shot in the chest by a modern firearm (even a bow or muzzleloader, but less so) gives one an appreciation of just how deadly these things are. Once you see it, you don't need many more gun safety lectures. As noted earlier in this thread, I own a dozen or so guns of all varieties and have owned guns for over 40 years (since my adolescence ), and simply don't view them as tools for personal defense (and I've lived within the city limits of both New Orleans and DC, both cities with relatively high crime rates). I'm an NRA Distinguished Expert with smallbore, taught rifle and shotgun shooting merit badges to Boy Scouts, and NRA Hunter Safety to adults and just can't conceive of carrying a concealed handgun. What spooks me out even worse is that most people than do conceal carry have far, far less experience with firearms than I do. Personally, I'd rather hand a crook my wallet all wrapped up with a pretty pink bow than shoot him for trying to take it.
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#32
06-03-2011, 01:51 PM
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Yeah, same reason cops sometimes go off the edge and beat people.
Just last year? iirc a pharmacist was robbed, but he was a (limping from purple heart) vet - pulled a gun, shot the guy, he fell below the counter where the camera couldn't see him. The pharma pulled his OTHER gun, a Taurus Judge, walked slowly around the counter (since he was standing, he was on camera) and squeezed off a few more rounds. He wasn't arrested. Pete
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#33
06-03-2011, 01:57 PM
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I was wrong, he was tried.... and found guilty. We must be talking abou the same shooting.
Pete
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#34
06-03-2011, 02:00 PM
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There's the whole Joe Horn thing, the grand jury threw it out.
Pete
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#35
06-03-2011, 02:03 PM
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Pete:
You'd do that out of humane reasons when hunting.. But I don't think the Pharma guy was trying to be humane. You're supposed to use the weapon to CONTROL the situation, not to enhance the violence. BTW: Cartoons are EXCELLENT today sir.... FinnBow: My dad ran a Civitan Junior Rifle League with the help of NRA and actually the DOD! It'll make lefty heads explode when I tell them we got our ammunition nearly for free from the Federal Govt! After all the DOD wants young men who know how to shoot. I helped coach the team for awhile. Got stopped in Alabama (because my hair was shoulder length, I'm sure) at 18 yrs old. In the tailgate of the family wagon I had 12 match rifles and over 800 rounds of ammo. The good sheriff took at look at the medals and the jackets and we had an EXCELLENT meeting of the minds. I was shaking the whole time tho.. I'd never apply for CCW either.. I don't even want to carry a cell phone most days.. What a freaking pain.. And it's not all that sexy either.. You lose a lot of lefty women that way I'm told.. Last edited by flacaltenn; 06-03-2011 at 02:12 PM.
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#36
06-03-2011, 02:23 PM
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One talking head said perhaps it was because of his military experience...
My dad got his ccw, he doesn't even own a gun! His reason? 'They might make it harder to get one but they'd have a hard time taking them away from those who already have one.' I might get mine but have no real desire to carry one. I hate the thought of shooting someone. If you meet a lefty woman you could always say 'I got it after being beaten trying to protect a woman from 100 biker rapists... or perhaps say, in case you see someone beating my favorite baby seal, with a lead filled snowshoe  Pete
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#37
06-03-2011, 02:28 PM
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what can i say? TN was a good move for you
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#38
06-03-2011, 02:33 PM
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read post 8
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#39
06-03-2011, 03:48 PM
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THis is gonna be a hard response for me because I have to acknowledge both Pete and NoOneReal...
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Seriously NoOneReal: I am so sorry about your losses and your experience. I truly am. Any experience I've had with guns has been the opposite. First thoughts are ALWAYS how important this right was to my father and how much joy he created by coaching a teen-age team of kids who weren't varsity anything, but could win medals in shooting competitions.. Last edited by flacaltenn; 06-03-2011 at 03:50 PM.
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#40
06-03-2011, 08:06 PM
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it's when the truth about them is distorted that I have a problem btw in addition to what I listed in that post my home was broken into twice and my cars three times never once did i feel i needed a gun to protect either however i felt i needed flood lights and car alarms at the time
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