Letter From the Great White North - Page 2

Rajoo · #11 02-12-2025, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyM

I fully understand and I don't blame you Canadians. A certain political party put the frog in a pot of water and gradually turned on the heat. The other political party behaved like it was just going to be a warm bath. Maybe we, the boiled frog will find a way to leap out of that pot. Maybe not. Right now I'm not so certain. I'm not so sure America has the strenght for the fight anymore

Great post and a very good analogy.

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Originally Posted by RickeyM

Muskrat's paid AI driven bots and trolls are so prolific that it seems that way. What blows the collective minds areound the world is how so many Americans could buy into this clusterfuck. Anyhoo, like I said years ago on this very forum, the GOP has been at war with our democracy for a long, long time. The only question now is this only a battle or the war?
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Its all out war, the GOP wants an end to democracy as we have it now. I am not sure if they want a Russian style oligarchy, but doubt they know what they want. But their dream is for a White Christian state, no taxes, no regulations, no minority rights, no abortion and guns for all. even the religion is for identity, not a theological state.

If they do get to this point, eventually the guns will get them because poverty brings out the worst in people.

I am wondering if there is a way for states like CA, NY, IL and MA to temporarily keep the Federal tax withholding. Perhaps not possible for national companies, but for in state small businesses to send their Federal withholding into a state administered escrow fund.

Rajoo · #12 02-12-2025, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Noogies

Hi, all.

I was going to take a long vacation from posting in this forum but before I do, I thought I'd let you guys know how things are going just north of y'all.

I don't blame the people mostly because I have very low expectations from them, and what little faith I may have had went out with the advent of social media.

But I blame this loss primarily on Biden and the Democratic party. In a two party system, one has to vote for one party or the other, unless one stays home.

Their ill conceived coronation of Hillary gave us Trump I and whatever made them think that this country will elect a black woman who is an established political lightweight.

RickeyM · #13 02-12-2025, 03:57 PM

I place great fault on Democrat party leadership because they let the GOP define who and what we were. The start should have been going tooth and nail against every Repub that refused to acknowlege President Biden and politely calling what trump was doing "misinformation" instead of calling it what it was, outright lying. The party leadership knew Joe was approaching his "sell by" date and did nothing to plan for after that. Some of the younger party leaders should have been turned loose on trump to get some alternatives for the next election known and they wouldn't have had to punt to Harris when Biden stumbled.

Rajoo · #14 02-12-2025, 04:30 PM

Lack of an honest primary in 2016 led to Trump I and no primary in 2024 led to Trump II.
Trump was a very weak candidate in 2016 and had lots of baggage and a Felon badge in 2024, and yet he won.

To begin with, the Democratic should make it their election process to hold primaries and no one over 70 years of age should hold an elected office which will then bring in young new political leaders.

Will they do it? Nah, they would rather go for obscure causes and lose their audience.

donquixote99 · #15 02-12-2025, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Human

Well, ~70 million voted for Trump and 90 million didn't vote. Current population 334 million. 72 million of those are under 18 so I won't count those.
Of 262 million over the age of 18, 160 million didn't bother to vote, or voted for a felon who behaves like a spoiled child. That's 61 percent of the population, which is 'most'

Also I don't know how the hell you got that I in any way support Trump from what I posted.

Please. I didn't say you support Trump. I said you are supporting Trump's claim that he won in a landslide. That claim is foundational to their claim that they can do what they do because it is 'the will of the people.' Which is always the justification used by dictators to make their power absolute.

It plays into their narrative to lump non-voters into the count of Trump supporters.

donquixote99 · #16 02-12-2025, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Noogies

I have nearly as much problem with the complacent ones who allowed this to happen as I do with the arrogant narcissists who made it happen.

And as stated above, it seems like most Americans have lost the will to fight. All our American friends and acquaintances who haven't gotten on board with MAGA seem to be claiming fatigue and keeping their heads in the sand.

I think people will fight if inspired by a leader who sees that we have to. The Republicans have leaders who keep saying 'Fight Fight Fight!' It's gotten to the point where we could use Trump's words to mobilize against him: “We fight like hell and if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.” It's bitterly ironic that these words have become true.

The one Democrat who I hear saying things that indicate he gets this is Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut. "...we are staring the death of democracy in the eyes right now."
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...right_now.html