The Biggest Blunder in the History of American Politics

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Geeze you still have this idea about a great economy. It greatness is inflation masquerading as growth. The compliant Civil servants over the years have been revising and manipulating the CPI in favor of the corporate and stock market class. They have been massaging the jobs report.
The markers to look for are the real price to access education, transportation and shelter. Symptoms are pervasive massive debts. Trump realized the angst and played to it. But he is just noise. I remember the first time he was running he complained that the economic numbers were bogus. However as soon as he got power he claimed the said numbers...WTF.
Tariff as a method is inevitable largely because of China's ever increasing efficiency. However this large deportation proposed is nonesense and will be made impractical by employers. Trump’s immigration proposals operate from racist impulse and are not based on common sense economics. There are 10 million working age Americans who have voluntarily withdrawn from the workforce; immigrants are needed.

I did not claim a great economy, only that it was recovering nicely post pandemic supply chain issues which is what contributed to our inflation beginning 2021. Also there was significant price gouging going on which no one seemed to know what to do. If I as a businessperson can sit on a six month back log for a handful of years, why would I increase output? Guaranteed business at high profit margins, this is a wet dream for businesses. Unfortunately Biden got blamed as if he could have done a damn thing.

And you have been harping on their job numbers report for quite a while. Are you claiming that Biden's administration is cooking job numbers to make themselves look good and this will go unchallenged. I don't mean MAGA noise makers, but statisticians and financial analysts.

And what do you think the next round of Oligarch tax cuts is going to do to our deficits while making the previous ones permanent? How can you lower taxes without matching tax revenues?

Ah, enter the tariffs which the goobers believe China will pay for like Mexico paying for the wall. No country can or will replace China in the short term as the world's supplier and doubt America wants to bring back manufacturing to our shores. Cost and labor shortages are the main impediments. So all this is lip service. Tariffs are to pay for the tax cuts, nothing to do with damaging China's economy or dominance. This is why I believe Biden had to keep the Trump tariffs in place for four years.

In the interim I predict that Trump, his cronies or worse, Vance and his cronies will rob the treasury to their hearts content and nothing can or will be done. The rest of the country will suffer including those who put them in the drivers seat.

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by Noogies

It is not yet clear to me whose century this is, but what IS clear is that it ain't the American one anymore.

We can't even do a two year plan it seems. Where China Russia along with pretty much every other country planning for the next 50 to 100 years.

The US companies are planning ahead, getting prepared for the years to follow. Will they show loyalty to this country? I doubt it, have not shown to be interested in anything but taking.....

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

And you have been harping on their job numbers report for quite a while. Are you claiming that Biden's administration is cooking job numbers to make themselves look good and this will go unchallenged. I don't mean MAGA noise makers, but statisticians and financial analysts.

I am not just referring to the Biden admin but admins of whatever Stripe. The civil servants over the years have been f**king with the methodologies to determine unemployment and CPI. Why do they behave in such a manner? I guess to curry favor with the incumbent and also to appease the corporate and stock market class.
Of late abetted by msm there were huge fanfares on the job numbers which were quietly and consistently revised downwards- hardly upwards. And notice I used the term - massage.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by Oasis

Well you saved me from wasting my time reading it.

Sounds like BS, 60 court case losses indicate there was zero evidence of election fraud.

It appears you have no understanding of what evidence is and is not.

Note: The post below is one I formatted a few days ago but somehow had never posted. It may be dated at this point, but here you go...
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Here is some evidence. https://thenewamerican.com/us/crime/...th-or-reality/

What you will find if you google it is tons and tons of MSM sources "debunking" voter fraud claims. But then, they are also the sources that were pushing for Kamala in this last election cycle. In fact, as the article I posted points out. The biggest loser in this last election cycle is the reputation of the MSM. And it's about time.

There are many other sources of evidence, but they are hard to find, because they typically don't have the following of the MSM, but that is obviously changing.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

I am not just referring to the Biden admin but admins of whatever Stripe. The civil servants over the years have been f**king with the methodologies to determine unemployment and CPI. Why do they behave in such a manner? I guess to curry favor with the incumbent and also to appease the corporate and stock market class.
Of late abetted my msm there were huge fanfares on the job numbers which were quietly and consistently revised downwards- hardly upwards. And notice I used the term - massage.

Thing is, if you can "fudge" the CPI to a lower level and then apply any increases in things like Social Security on that, over time you can significantly reduce social security benefits - relative to the REAL cost of living. That is why my main "plan" for retirement was not to have a lot of money, but to have zero debt, own my own home, and live in a place where property taxes are low.

So here I am on 32 acres of beautiful forest and lawns and streams, with a home and large insulated shop/mancave, four cars, and my monthly cost of
living is half my monthly SS checks.

And we have only four hens that produce three times the eggs we need, and we split a beef with our neighbors as needed for all the beef we can eat at about $5 a pound, and they are all about as organic as you can get. And our property taxes are the price of a loaded medium pizza every month.

BTW, we pay zero income tax because our "taxable" income is so low. The utter freedom and sense of control over your own life that that brings is something I never saw coming. I feel more free than I have my entire life. It's almost tangible.

And if we need a few thousand here or there, we just sell a few trees to local lumber mills and they take them down and cart them away. And the last time we did that we ened up with some really excellent trails on our property that can handle a side-by-side.

And our state has nice, strict voter ID laws so naturally the area is about as red as you can get.

i.e. we're prepared for SS checks to continue to effectively decline, but we're 70, so we only have to hold out for so long...

[Dondilion]

In what state do you live?

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

In what state do you live?

Clearly he lives in the state of Denial.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

In what state do you live?

A state of delusion most likely aka Floriduh or nearby.

His profile sez lower Kentuckistan...

[Chicks]

Oklahoma Opens Office of Religious Liberty and Patriotism
The taxpayer-funded office will investigate cases where religious freedom is trampled on while the state implements biblical study into the curriculum.
https://reason.com/2024/11/15/oklaho...nd-patriotism/

On Tuesday, Ryan Walters, Oklahoma's State Superintendent of Public Instruction, announced the creation of an Office of Religious Liberty and Patriotism at the Oklahoma Department of Education. Advertised as a way to protect freedom of religion, this office will impose Orwellian-like practices that trample individual choice and religious freedom.

Completely unconstitutional, of course, but would be paradise for morons like the Insane Clown.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Chicks

Oklahoma Opens Office of Religious Liberty and Patriotism
The taxpayer-funded office will investigate cases where religious freedom is trampled on while the state implements biblical study into the curriculum.
https://reason.com/2024/11/15/oklaho...nd-patriotism/



Completely unconstitutional, of course, but would be paradise for morons like the Insane Clown.

Meanwhile here in Ohio, an award-winning HS principal and President of Ohio Association of Secondary School Administrators, no less, has been put on leave for putting out a careful statement after the election that dared to say that diversity would be supported and all students would be safe.

Spurred-on by the usual right-wing media feeding frenzy, some in the district want the head of the 'crazy liberal.'

https://www.dispatch.com/story/opini...r/76308039007/