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10-10-2023, 02:01 PM
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Not that simple. Yes. Egypt, Syria or Jordan may not be able to take on Israel one on one. But if they all band together with Lebanon in the mix, it will be an uncontrollable situation. Israel is assumed to be nuclear armed and will they go this route? Will the US fight alongside Israel? What about a blockade of Israel? I bet Europe will be spectators wanting no part in it.
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The term "Never Again" has huge significance, especially for right-wing Jews. I have no doubt that Israel would go nuclear if it sees itself on the brink of disaster. I believe the Muslim states around her understand that and have adjusted.
Please note the disappointment with Golda Meir and the assassination of Isak Rabin. Two leaders who were regarded as being too compliant.
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10-10-2023, 03:02 PM
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Jared Kushner takes credit for bringing Arab-Israeli conflict to its 'last vestiges' in new op-ed
https://www.businessinsider.com/jare...-israel-2021-3
Remember MAGAts? The Boy Prince "solved" this problem way back in '21. How is this conflict, then, even possible!?
Whell, you're a True Believer - what's your answer?
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10-10-2023, 04:23 PM
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I feel the parties involved will never come to an "enough is enough" point in my lifetime. Violence begets violence begets violence.
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Conflicts keep vested parties in power and more importantly their coffers overflowing. As long as its pawns like in a chess game who are dying, why change the SOP?
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10-10-2023, 05:49 PM
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However the Vatican was overwhelming pro Nazi. This has its foundation in the Vatican's anti Communist stance. The nazis were the foot soldiers against this anti God movement.
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No, the Vatican and Pope Pius were publicly, and frustratingly, neutral toward the Hitler and Mussolini governments. Quite on purpose and probably also to a fault, but this was also due to a desire for self-preservation. Pius saw the Nazis as a threat.
While Pius remaining publically neutral, he was also in contact with and rendered assistance to the German resistance. Here's some history on that:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_P...man_resistance
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10-10-2023, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Chicks
Jared Kushner takes credit for bringing Arab-Israeli conflict to its 'last vestiges' in new op-ed
https://www.businessinsider.com/jare...-israel-2021-3
Remember MAGAts? The Boy Prince "solved" this problem way back in '21. How is this conflict, then, even possible!?
Whell, you're a True Believer - what's your answer?
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Are you suggesting that the Abraham Accords are a failure, or somehow central to Hamas' attack on Isreal this weekend?
Hmmmm....let's see. Who were the signatories to the Abaraham Accords? Bahrain,
Israel, Morocco, Sudan and the UAE. Nope, don't see the terrorist organizations of Hamas or Hezbollah on the list. I don't see Iran either.
You're going to need to explain what the Abraham Accords have to do with Middle East terrorism.
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10-10-2023, 06:08 PM
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We can nonetheless be grateful a certain incompetent unfit self-absorbed fucking moron is no longer making critical decisions in serious matters like this.
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10-10-2023, 06:22 PM
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Are you suggesting that the Abraham Accords are a failure, or somehow central to Hamas' attack on Isreal this weekend?
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Nope, The Boy Wonder did that.
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Kushner described the longstanding conflict between Israelis and Palestinians as merely a "real-estate dispute" — despite his roadmap for peace being immediately dismissed by Palestinian leaders.
"One of the reasons the Arab-Israeli conflict persisted for so long was the myth that it could be solved only after Israel and the Palestinians resolved their differences," Kushner wrote. "That was never true. The Abraham Accords exposed the conflict as nothing more than a real-estate dispute between Israelis and Palestinians that need not hold up Israel's relations with the broader Arab world. It will ultimately be resolved when both sides agree on an arbitrary boundary line."
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Just a little real-estate dispute. Lol.
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10-10-2023, 08:33 PM
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Nope, The Boy Wonder did that.
Just a little real-estate dispute. Lol.
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You really have no clue, do you? There is no real estate dispute. The Palestinians own the "real estate" called the Gaza Strip.
No, the Hamas and Hezbollah folks don't give a crap about real estate. Sane folks don't slaughter random civilians and behead babies over real estate. Twisted terrorist bastards do that, and then promise to stream it live.
Terrorists just want people dead and want as many of them dead as possible.
You, Rashida Talib, and Cori Bush, apologists for the terrorist crowd, call it a real estate dispute.
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10-10-2023, 08:48 PM
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Nope, The Boy Wonder did that.
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No, he did not. The Abraham Accords signatories were legitimate governments. Pariah states and terrorist enablers like Iran were not, nor were terrorist groups like Hamas.
In fact, the purpose of the accords was to further isolate Iran and groups like Hamas. Check out this statement from the Bahraini Foreign Minister, his country one of the signatories to the Accords:
“We don’t want to let this issue [of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict] continue to be used by countries or terror groups that seek dominance in the region. And that will bring us to the issue of Iran,” the top Bahraini diplomat said Wednesday at an Atlantic Council event in Washington, DC.
“If it wasn’t for Iran being present — Iranian soldiers, Iranian money, Iranian support for Hamas and jihadis that take control of Gaza — we would have been much closer to achieving a better peace between the Palestinians and Israelis and we would have a better chance,” he said. “But that role was so toxic that it would make things difficult every time.”
It's precisely alliances with Accords signatories like Bahrain that are the best hope for peace in that region.
But, you keep right on with your pea-brained comments.
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10-10-2023, 10:46 PM
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You really have no clue, do you? There is no real estate dispute.
You, Rashida Talib, and Cori Bush, apologists for the terrorist crowd, call it a real estate dispute.
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I'll quote the Boy Prince ONE MORE TIME, as you're too stupid, obviously, to read what HE SAID. Good lord, you prove your incredible ignorance again and again. How can one person be so incredibly ignorant!?
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"One of the reasons the Arab-Israeli conflict persisted for so long was the myth that it could be solved only after Israel and the Palestinians resolved their differences," Kushner wrote. "That was never true. The Abraham Accords exposed the conflict as nothing more than a real-estate dispute between Israelis and Palestinians that need not hold up Israel's relations with the broader Arab world. It will ultimately be resolved when both sides agree on an arbitrary boundary line."
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A DIRECT QUOTE from you Dear Leader's idiot son-in-law, nothing to do with me or anyone but your idiot leader's Boy Wonder. Sheesh, you're incredibly stupid! How did you ever make it through 3rd grade comprehension!?
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