Hamas Attack in Israel

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Don't they despise Muslims too? I guess if you don't believe in the Holy Trinity you're sol?

Reckon it's an interesting thing to ponder...in the area of religious differences, who do white American christians despise most...Jews or Muslims? The variables? Muslims are dark skinned, Jews are white which benefits Jews...but then so many Jews have money, which white christians really fucking hate. Ask any christian about Muslims and Jews and they will tell you they all smell bad.

Which reminds me of a joke...

Why won't cannibals eat clowns?
Because they smell funny.

[Oerets]

The Jewish people have every right to be feeling persecuted. History is full of abuses and atrocities they have endured. For no reason other then the envy of their successes and community.

They are not alone in being treated inhumane thou. Our own history of the treatment of the native population is full of atrocities and mistreatment. The native population would also inflict atrocities. This is something humans do it seems.

I have profound feelings of immense sorrow for the population of Israel in this time of war. Also feeling the same for the population of the Gaza Strip. Remembering when a building get destroyed no matter where it is a innocent family may well be inside in trouble. No one should be forced to endure this.

Yet feel conflicted due my code thru out life. Slow to anger. Passive when faced with aggression. Until pushed over the edge by another to defend me or mine. Then all the stops are out. No rules or quarter down and dirty. Get it over as fast as possible.

So understand a little the thinking of the actions of others.

Face it the world needs better ways of living together.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by Chicks

Did you even bother to read the article!? That’s the part where the Faux “News” liar left out all surrounding context! Sheesh!

I read it. Mediaite is responding to one dishonesty while inadvertently highlighting another.

However, I was specifically responding to the assertion about "rubes".

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by Oerets

The Jewish people have every right to be feeling persecuted. History is full of abuses and atrocities they have endured. For no reason other then the envy of their successes and community.

They are not alone in being treated inhumane thou. Our own history of the treatment of the native population is full of atrocities and mistreatment. The native population would also inflict atrocities. This is something humans do it seems.

I have profound feelings of immense sorrow for the population of Israel in this time of war. Also feeling the same for the population of the Gaza Strip. Remembering when a building get destroyed no matter where it is a innocent family may well be inside in trouble. No one should be forced to endure this.

Yet feel conflicted due my code thru out life. Slow to anger. Passive when faced with aggression. Until pushed over the edge by another to defend me or mine. Then all the stops are out. No rules or quarter down and dirty. Get it over as fast as possible.

So understand a little the thinking of the actions of others.

Face it the world needs better ways of living together.

I have great respect for the consistency of your thought.

The "rules-based" argument is often bandied about but has been shown to be wholly inconsistent.

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

I read it. Mediaite is responding to one dishonesty while inadvertently highlighting another.

However, I was specifically responding to the assertion about "rubes".

So those who trust in scientific research are "rubes" to you?! You're as silly as Whell.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by Chicks

So those who trust in scientific research are "rubes" to you?! You're as silly as Whell.

The rubes who believe the present-day argument about Israel's survivability. The only countries that are guaranteed not to survive if an existential war occurs are Israel's neighbors.

Glaring, basic facts are often eschewed.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

The rubes who believe the present-day argument about Israel's survivability. The only countries that are guaranteed not to survive if an existential war occurs are Israel's neighbors.

Glaring, basic facts are often eschewed.

Not that simple. Yes. Egypt, Syria or Jordan may not be able to take on Israel one on one. But if they all band together with Lebanon in the mix, it will be an uncontrollable situation. Israel is assumed to be nuclear armed and will they go this route? Will the US fight alongside Israel? What about a blockade of Israel? I bet Europe will be spectators wanting no part in it.

And if this leads out to be a drawn out war like in Ukraine, there is the real danger of Islamic terrorism skyrocketing throughout the entire world. This is what makes the Middle East such a powder keg. Israel can project an image of awesome power, but can never directly use it, because when the fighting starts, they will be isolated. And probably why Israel never enters into wars that does not directly involve them.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Don't be an asshole whell, everybody hates the Jews. The christian world looked the other way for 10 years while European Jews were being slaughtered by the millions by German nazis. What is bullshit is the phony shock from the christian world when the news and the newreels of the liberated death camps were released in early 1945.

Fucking Germans who threw up the nazi salute and who lived within smelling distance of Belsen Bergen and Dachau feigning shock, shedding bullshit tears, when they were forced to go to the camps and toss the rotting Jew bodies from mounds of them into mass graves in the newsreels.

I can tolerate all kinds of crap out of you, whell...but don't be an asshole about the holocaust.

If you're basis for your comment today are the acts of people 80 years ago before and during WW II that history does not remember kindly, then you're the asshole, not me.

As for your "everyone hates the Jews" comment, please confine your anti-semitic remarks to yourself. As far as your "phony shock" comment, there was nothing phony about it. No one had ever seen the carnage of that magnitude presented in the graphic details by the newsreels of the day.

As far as your "Christian world looked the other way", get your facts straight and please stop pedaling tropes. Could the Vatican and Pope Pius have done more? Sure. Could Roosevelt have done more? Absolutely. Does arm-chair quarterbacking always provide an accurate view to history? Hell no.

Try this on for size: https://www.vaticannews.va/en/church...holocaust.html

[RickeyM]

I feel the parties involved will never come to an "enough is enough" point in my lifetime. Violence begets violence begets violence.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by whell

If you're basis for your comment today are the acts of people 80 years ago before and during WW II that history does not remember kindly, then you're the asshole, not me.

As for your "everyone hates the Jews" comment, please confine your anti-semitic remarks to yourself. As far as your "phony shock" comment, there was nothing phony about it. No one had ever seen the carnage of that magnitude presented in the graphic details by the newsreels of the day.

As far as your "Christian world looked the other way", get your facts straight and please stop pedaling tropes. Could the Vatican and Pope Pius have done more? Sure. Could Roosevelt have done more? Absolutely. Does arm-chair quarterbacking always provide an accurate view to history? Hell no.

Try this on for size: https://www.vaticannews.va/en/church...holocaust.html

However the Vatican was overwhelming pro Nazi. This has its foundation in the Vatican's anti Communist stance. The nazis were the foot soldiers against this anti God movement.