Hamas Attack in Israel

[Pio1980]

Useful idiot, indeed!

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Or is everyone to be blamed for Israel's massive intelligence failure? One possible answer.

Donald Trump's Israel Intel Leak Under Scrutiny After Hamas Attack

From Russia to Iran to Hammas?

Sure it was not Hunter's laptop?

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

And in 1877 the South finally won the Civil War. Did Sherman's cruelty contribute to their eventual victory, and to the continued growth and vigor of Confederate culture to this very day?

What happened in the South in 1877 is less about bitterness over losing the war or Sherman's tactics and more about the cruelty built into human nature.

Revenge is the most prominent of human characteristics. And how does any "cruelty" perped on the South by Sherman compare with the cruelty of two centuries of enslavement torture and murder? Or the cruelty of christian clergy preaching that slavery was the will of God.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Or is everyone to be blamed for Israel's massive intelligence failure? One possible answer.

Donald Trump's Israel Intel Leak Under Scrutiny After Hamas Attack

From Russia to Iran to Hammas?

The failure was comprehensive!

And BTW everyone knows, that Iron Dome, Patriot Missile, S-400 can be overwhelmed with quantity of missiles.

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Both sides seem to not realize...

Once one side chooses violence onto another. Then turning the other cheek, appeasement wanting to start negotiating appears weak. Strength and the knowing pain and sorrow to follow gets their attention.

""He pulls a knife, you pull a gun, he sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the Chicago way.""

Sean Connery as Jim Malone in The Untouchables.

It appears this conflict will only end with the destruction of the other. They have been fighting battles amongst themselves for centuries. Killing loved ones only further the anger. A well known occurrence.

If the world were serious about ending this and all wars. It may be possible. My feeling is the horror has not reached the point to make everyone agree to work together. The sacrifices needed from those countries now benefiting will still be hard for them. Causing ony half measures and window dressing actions.

[Pio1980]

I've had Al Jazeera on my app list as a source from the regional perspective, here's their take on the history of the conflict for context.
What’s the Israel-Palestine conflict about? A simple guide https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/...a-simple-guide

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by oerets

sean connery as jim malone in the untouchables.

"What are you prepared to do?"

After war was made on innocent Israeli civilians, this is a question every IDF fighter must ask and answer for themselves.

I suspect the answer for the overwhelming majority of them will be, "Whatever is necessary."

[RickeyM]

This all goes back to who drew first blood. Each side will say it was the other.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

The failure was comprehensive!

And BTW everyone knows, that Iron Dome, Patriot Missile, S-400 can be overwhelmed with quantity of missiles.

So what's the purpose of defensive systems that can be overcome. Besides to the makers of them that is.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Some of us hold that Israeli Jews have chosen not to die at all. And since they're Jews, most Christians do not go along with Israeli Jews having a right to exist.

What kind of bullshit is this??? This is an absolute lie.

Here are some facts for you:

https://religionnews.com/2022/05/26/...ristian-group/