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08-31-2023, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Ike Bana
Oh my, you found two seditionist House Republicans who say they dont support domestic terrorist militia groups. Do I believe what spews forth from their festering pieholes? I do not.
So...you are wrong on all of this.
And specifically regarding Waco...the Branch Davidian kids all died because of their parents and David Koresh. And they were sexually abused because of their parents and David Koresh. Also, arson investigators determined that the fire was started by members of the cult so the parents killed their own kids, and they knew they would be killing the kids when they started it. You lying sack of shit.
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Please note that whell has had the opportunity to reply to this and he has decided, like a good little troll, to skulk off to his hiding place under the bridge.
Particularly the big lie that law enforcement burned the building down in Waco. Just like in Jonestown, those in control of the Branch Davidian group, lacking the cyanide spiked kool aid, just burned the place down around themselves.
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08-31-2023, 07:45 AM
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The point is you have no idea at all what motivated the shooter. Absolutely none. You have much conjecture and finger-pointing, and that's all.
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Oh, really?
San Bernardino County Sheriff Shannon Dicus told reporters that Ikeguchi tore down the Pride flag outside Mag.Pi and “yelled many homophobic slurs” before the shooting, per The Guardian. Ikeguchi also had an extensive history of making anti-LGBTQ+ comments on Twitter; in fact, his pinned post, which remains up at the time of writing, is a picture of a burning rainbow flag captioned, “What to do with the LGBTQP [sic] flag?”
On the right-wing social media platform Gab, Ikeguchi was even bolder. One of his pinned posts, according to Vice, read, “We need to STOP COMPROMISING on this LGBT dictatorship and not let them take over our lives. Stop accepting this abomination that the government is forcing us to submit to these mentally disordered tyrants.” The suspect also allegedly shared a link to a video called “When Should You Shoot a Cop,” with a caption reading, “There will come a time that we have to do this.” (Ikeguchi’s Gab profile was removed on Monday.)
Ikeguchi’s bigotry was not limited to the LGBTQ+ community, however. Many of his posts aligned with Christian nationalist views. On June 28, Ikeguchi posted that abortion and same-sex marriage “are both immoral and are design [sic] to destroy humanity one by one.” “So if someone is pro-abortion and pro-LGBTQP, they are at war against the foundation of family values,” Ikeguchi wrote. Ikeguchi also posted about a variety of other standard right-wing conspiratorial content, including anti-vaccine content and anti-Semitic memes.
Oh, really?
The FBI director, Christopher Wray, told Congress that the 6 January insurrection wasn’t an isolated event and “the problem of domestic terrorism has been metastasizing across the country for a number of years”.
Wray added that white supremacists comprise “the biggest chunk of our domestic terrorism portfolio overall” and “have been responsible for the most lethal attacks over the last decade”.
You still haven't answered why Far Right extremism is responsible for 75% of domestic terror attacks (3X higher than those attributable to the Far Left). Why is that?
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08-31-2023, 07:54 AM
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No one wants to defund the entire FBI and DOJ. If that's what you're implying, you need to get a clue.
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Really, numbnuts? NO ONE??? The goddamn boss instructed Congressional Republicans to do this back in April, not some dickhead GOP congressman.
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Trump on Wednesday declared that, “Republicans in Congress should defund the DOJ and FBI” - The Hill, April 6, 2023
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You are caught in a fucking lie once again. Once again, you are the only one who needs to get a fucking clue.
And whell the troll skulks back under his bridge in 5...4...3...2...1...
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08-31-2023, 08:00 AM
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Who said the guy was "far right"? You have a source?
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The shooter's alt-right anti-LGBTQ ideology is all over his social media.
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08-31-2023, 08:01 AM
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Did President Biden cause the fires in Maui?
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Jewish space lasers again.
Actually, the entire House of Representatives should be fired for not firing the woman who said that.
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08-31-2023, 08:04 AM
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The only way to deal with a troll like Whell is to ignore him. Between Chicks mentioning him in every post and everybody else in this forum taking his bait, I give up. (I'm included in that everybody else, ftr.)
Y'all have fun.
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I'm guilty of taking the bait on occasion too. It's hard sometimes to stay on the "talking about him" side of the line without venturing onto the "talking to him" (the dark side, LOL) side of the line.
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08-31-2023, 08:09 AM
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I disagree bob. I think having people like whell and zero around here is of significant benefit. I believe we need constant reminders of just how sociopathic and hypocritical the opposition is. There's always a new wrinkle in the ideology of the alt-right/MAGA in this country. Knowing what kind of disinformation and lies are being spread is dangerous and important to know. When one of these schmucks unloads the latest MAGAt bullshit, and somebody counters it with the reality and the truth, it reinforces to everybody, just what kind of fetid chunks these shit-bags are spewing.
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You may have a point there. I refuse to waste any of my precious remaining time here on earth seeking out Reich-wing propaganda but to his credit whell serves as a conduit bringing it here.
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08-31-2023, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Rajoo
Did President Biden cause the fires in Maui?
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Was President Biden able to show a shred of human decency and caring about what happened to the people of Maui?
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08-31-2023, 08:25 AM
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Was President Biden able to show a shred of human decency and caring about what happened to the people of Maui?
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He had already spoken to the nation and had multiple interactions with officials in Hawaii about Maui prior to having a question shouted at him that he couldn't hear while he was vacationing on the beach. The horror.
You certainly are quick to pick up on Fox News agitprop. If you truly had concerns about politicians showing empathy, you would have started years ago with your favorite orange-hued sociopath.
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08-31-2023, 08:48 AM
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Oh, really?
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Yes, really. Your argument is constructed from an inductive fallacy.
"He was triggered by a pride flag and made harsh comments about the homosexual lifestyle, so he must be a right-wing extremist."
It's like saying: "That guy is wearing a Hawaiian shirt so he must be a Boogaloo boy." Never mind that the guy is standing in the lobby of the Hilton Waikiki Beach Resort.
I understand that you and your fellow travelers on the left want to rush to make this kid a poster child for right-wing violence. Maybe his is and maybe he isn't. We just don't have enough info.
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