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Originally Posted by finnbow

And you obviously count yourself among those who don't understand the difference between a soci@list and a social democrat (the former being autocratic, the latter democratic).

Also, FWIW, what people call themselves isn't necessarily accurate. Trump called himself "the most honest human being, perhaps, that God ever created." That doesn't make it so.

And you claim you're a moderate, which makes me laugh out loud. With tripe like you posted above, you attempt to position yourself as knowledgable about " the difference between a soci@list and a social democrat (the former being autocratic, the latter democratic)." Bullshit.

The difference between a soci@list and a social democrat is leftist word-play, and a means to an end. Whether you want to talk about it includes forms of libertarian socializm, market socializm, reformist socializm, revolutionary socializm, ethical socializm, liberal socializm, social democracy, or what the hell every socializm, the end goal is the same.

Don't take my word for it. Friedrich Hayek's book The Road to Serfdom" makes the case quite convincingly. His fundamental thesis is that you can't separate individual freedom and economic freedom. In a free society, these two freedoms are unbreakably linked. Every step away from the free market and toward government planning represented a compromise of human freedom generally and a step toward a form of dictatorship--and this is true in all times and places. He demonstrated this against every claim that government control was really only a means of increasing social well-being. Hayek said that government planning would make society less liveable, more brutal, more despotic. Socializm in all its forms is contrary to freedom.

Originally Posted by finnbow

My label is protofascist. As you don't know what it means, I'll allow Encyclopedia Britannica to define it for you:e state should have a single leader with absolute power...

More Bullshit. You can lie to me all you want. But at least have some self-respect and quit lying to yourself. "Your label" was "semi-fascist", and no, I don't know what that means. It's probably yet another euphemism coined by the left but it certainly has no precise definition that I'm aware of. What really cracks me up is that you wasted 3 or 4 paragraphs describing a term that you didn't use! LOL!

Originally Posted by finnbow

Are you really ready to argue that extreme elements of the MAGA movement aren't at least semi-fascist?