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Originally Posted by whell

Quite purposefully missing the point of my post? And you have the nuts to accuse me of "bad faith"?

I don't care about your "assessment" of Trump or anyone else...
And as far as Umberto E's list and "his movement checking all the boxes", the only movement that your post reminds me of is the one that bulls leave behind.

Yet another one of your "Don't confuse me with the facts" posts. These are some of the most esteemed historians and political scientists on the planet in the field of fascism and authoritarianism.

I care about the current crop of leftists now label anyone they disagree with a "fascist". As if you need examples:

And I'm sure most of the folks who spout this claptrap really believe it.

Are there Dems who espouse socializm? Sure. Do all Dems espouse socializm? No.

Are "most", "many" or "all on the political right "fascist"? You tell me, cuz I'd like see the response.

Per the Oxford English Language Dictionary, Soci@lism is defined as "a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

By this definition, even the furthest left of Democrats (e.g., Bernie, AOC) are not soci@lists nor advocates of soci@lism. Indeed, by European standards, they would both be conservatives (conservatives there support universal healthcare and meaningful gun control, for example). Everything is relative. To American MAGA acolytes, anything to the left of their particular brand of protofascism is soci@lism. That doesn't, however, make it so.

As for the question of "are all on the political right fascist?" I most certainly have not said that. Folks like Mitt Romney, Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, Asa Hutchinson, Larry Hogan and Mitch McConnell are not fascist. OTOH, given Trump's obvious fascist proclivities, those who still support and defend him are either fascist, protofascist (Biden's "semi-fascist" moniker) or at least fascism-tolerant. If I had to attach a label to you, it would be the latter.

As to Joe Biden's quote he said:

"What we’re seeing now is the beginning or the death knell of an extreme MAGA philosophy. It’s not just Trump, it’s the entire philosophy that underpins the — I’m going to say something, it’s like semi-fascism."

Later, at a national Democratic Party event before a few thousand people packed into a nearby high school gym, Biden added: “I respect conservative Republicans. I don’t respect these MAGA Republicans."

Are you really ready to argue that extreme elements of the MAGA movement aren't at least semi-fascist? If so, you really need to study up a bit more on political science and history and eschew the wingnut news sources that obviously color your thinking. Meanwhile, you don't take issue with Trump calling democrats fascists. That is far more counterfactual than Biden calling extreme MAGAts "semi-fascist" (which happens to be objectively true, if uncomfortable to people like you).

PS - Did you see Tommy Tuberville defending white nationalism yesterday?