Hunter Biden Lock Him Up!!!!!

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

You obviously don't understand the dynamic between regulatory agencies and DOJ. IRS cares about tax compliance and revenue whereas DOJ cares about (major) crime. Failing to file tax returns is a misdemeanor and Hunter paid his tax debts when his liabilities were exposed rather than fighting and lying about it (like Trump did).

You obviously enjoy inflating your own ego. Yes, failure to file taxes is a misdemeanor. Tax evasion is a felony. Biden's failure to pay taxes took place over several years, and he only paid up when he got caught. The Feds allowed Biden to cop a plea to the misdemeanor charge.

As far as the DOJ not being interested in an income tax case, how then do you explain their interest in a case like this, where the accused owed far less than Biden?

https://www.statesboroherald.com/loc...e-tax-evasion/

Or this one?

https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/...s/69991033007/

Or this one?

https://ktar.com/story/5262565/scott...asion-charges/

In other words, I'm calling BS on your excuse-making and spear-catching for the Biden family.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

See the post above.

And I guess I have to say it to you again - the legal system has a cornerstone of "whataboutism". It's called precedent. There's also this thing called the 14th Amendment that requires the government to have a valid reason for any law or official action that treats similarly-situated people or groups of people differently.

You realize that your bedrock constitutional principle of "whataboutism" demands that you accept and defend Garland's intervention on Biden's behalf (not that he has) with the same vigor as you defended Barr's intervention on behalf of Trump, don't you?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

You obviously enjoy inflating your own ego. Yes, failure to file taxes is a misdemeanor. Tax evasion is a felony. Biden's failure to pay taxes took place over several years, and he only paid up when he got caught. The Feds allowed Biden to cop a plea to the misdemeanor charge.

As far as the DOJ not being interested in an income tax case, how then do you explain their interest in a case like this, where the accused owed far less than Biden?

https://www.statesboroherald.com/loc...e-tax-evasion/

Or this one?

https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/...s/69991033007/

Or this one?

https://ktar.com/story/5262565/scott...asion-charges/

In other words, I'm calling BS on your excuse-making and spear-catching for the Biden family.

Your constitutional bedrock principle of "whataboutism" demands that Hunter Biden's tax case be treated civilly rather than criminally as Roger Stone's was when he was found to owe the government $2 million in back taxes.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...case#xj4y7vzkg

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

You realize that your bedrock constitutional principle of "whataboutism" demands that you accept and defend Garland's intervention on Biden's behalf (not that he has) with the same vigor as you defended Barr's intervention on behalf of Trump, don't you?

Uh, you realize that - worst-case (from your perspective) - Barr's actions were to repair the damage done to folks who were being railroaded under the wheels of Crossfire Hurricane. Example (since you brought up Roger Stone earlier) - The "Russian spy"/political consultant that Roger Stone was passing information to was someone known to the US State Department, and the State Dept had used as a Russian intelligence source. There's also information that Mueller knew this about Kalimnick but prosecuted Stone anyway.

Try again, Finn.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Uh, you realize that - worst-case (from your perspective) - Barr's actions were to repair the damage done to folks who were being railroaded under the wheels of Crossfire Hurricane. Example (since you brought up Roger Stone earlier) - The "Russian spy"/political consultant that Roger Stone was passing information to was someone known to the US State Department, and the State Dept had used as a Russian intelligence source. There's also information that Mueller knew this about Kalimnick but prosecuted Stone anyway.

Try again, Finn.

Nobody was railroaded by Crossfire Hurricane. Indeed, it didn't even start as a criminal investigation, but a counterintelligence investigation that ultimately found all sorts of criminality. All defendants had their day in court and/or pleaded guilty (and none filed/won an appeal) while Barr endeavored to obfuscate/mischaracterize the worst findings concerning Trump (for which he was called out by Mueller).

Contrary to your false assertion, Stone was not charged or convicted of passing information to a State Department source. He was convicted in a jury trial of obstruction of a congressional investigation, five counts of making false statements to Congress, and tampering with a witness. You live in a world of alternative facts.

Once again, I don't give a shit one way or another about Hunter Biden, but am puzzled why those like you obsessed with him are willing to give Trump, Jared, and Ivanka a pass for monetizing their White House positions (while Hunter Biden has never served in any role in his father's administration). I suppose that you're simply too stupid to realize that this fixation on Hunter is somehow intended to equivocate on and distract from Trump's rampant criminal behavior.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Nobody was railroaded by Crossfire Hurricane. Indeed, it didn't even start as a criminal investigation, but a counterintelligence investigation that ultimately found all sorts of criminality.

I'm sure you'll take that to the grave, but it's idiocy. Here's just one example:

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/25/91688...document-shows

In his interview, (20 year FBI agent) Barnett expresses skepticism about the foundations of the investigation into possible ties between the Trump campaign and Russia, according to the summary.

Barnett told investigators that he found the Flynn probe to be "unclear and disorganized" in its initial stages, and that little was done on it through November 2016. And even later, he says, he didn't believe that Flynn had committed a crime, although he says others in the FBI, including the lead analyst on the case, did.

Barnett acknowledges that Flynn lied, but he said he believes Flynn did so "to save his job" and not to cover up collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

The US District Attorney appointed to review Flynn's plea deal recommended dismissing the case. The judge resisted dismissing the case, so it lead to a pardon for Flynn.

What was Flynn guilty of? Not conspiring with Russia. Not plotting to make millions in Russia or Ukraine or China. He plead guilty to lying to the FBI, which we later learned from the Michael Sussman trial really isn't a crime anyway. He made a bad judgment call, and the FBI and DOJ ended up putting the guy through the ringer and draining his bank account because they thought they could squeeze him to play ball in the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.

Yeah, you don't agree. If you did, it would call into question years' worth of your BS posts on this topic, so no real surprise.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

You live in a world of alternative facts.

..from the authority on alternative facts.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Circling back to the subject of this thread I think I understand why the Rethuglicans are upset about the verdict in the case of the president's son. If only they'd spend some time actually earning their pay instead of their current pursuits. Someone said they suspected if Hunter's last name wasn't Biden that he'd be treated differently by the DOJ. We all know if Hunter's last name wasn't Biden the entire GOP wouldn't give two shits about how the DOJ treated him one way or the other.

Originally Posted by barbara

I always thought the DOJ had bigger fish to fry than to go after someone who screwed up their taxes.

With condolences about the dead horse it's going to be amusing to see how long the tRumplicans keep beating it.



Space for the other honorees continues on the back.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

I'm sure you'll take that to the grave, but it's idiocy. Here's just one example:

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/25/91688...document-shows

In his interview, (20 year FBI agent) Barnett expresses skepticism about the foundations of the investigation into possible ties between the Trump campaign and Russia, according to the summary.

Barnett told investigators that he found the Flynn probe to be "unclear and disorganized" in its initial stages, and that little was done on it through November 2016. And even later, he says, he didn't believe that Flynn had committed a crime, although he says others in the FBI, including the lead analyst on the case, did.

Barnett acknowledges that Flynn lied, but he said he believes Flynn did so "to save his job" and not to cover up collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

The US District Attorney appointed to review Flynn's plea deal recommended dismissing the case. The judge resisted dismissing the case, so it lead to a pardon for Flynn.

What was Flynn guilty of? Not conspiring with Russia. Not plotting to make millions in Russia or Ukraine or China. He plead guilty to lying to the FBI, which we later learned from the Michael Sussman trial really isn't a crime anyway. He made a bad judgment call, and the FBI and DOJ ended up putting the guy through the ringer and draining his bank account because they thought they could squeeze him to play ball in the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.

Yeah, you don't agree. If you did, it would call into question years' worth of your BS posts on this topic, so no real surprise.

My only point was that Roger Stone was treated better than Hunter Biden when both had $2 million in tax delinquency, notwithstanding Stone's criminal history. You're the one who went off on a tangent whining (falsely) about Stone's mistreatment for his crimes associated with the Congressional Russia investigation.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

..from the authority on alternative facts.

I showed you clearly that Stone was treated better than Hunter Biden for his identical tax delinquency and you chose to go off on a (false) Crossfire Hurricane tangent saying he was improperly prosecuted for his interactions with a State Dept source when in fact he was prosecuted for several other crimes that had exactly nothing to do with your false assertion.

You really need to learn to take a loss when proven incorrect as it happens all the feckin' time. You'd think that after having been proven wrong so many times, you'd start to distrust all the wingnut bullshit you read.