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05-19-2023, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
Hillary was an existential threat; Trump less so...several times Carlson took him out of the hands of the Kagans.
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Hillary was an existential threat to nobody other than Vladimir Putin. He does admittedly, however, remain the center of your attention and admiration.
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05-19-2023, 03:43 PM
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WTF? Defending Trump is your entire raison d'être on this board. You mutter "no collusion, no obstruction" in your sleep.
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WTF? Find a single post where I stated "support" for Trump. I have voiced support for conservative principles, although seeing them actually on display in DC is rare.
I've also consistently questioned the accusations of "Russian collusion" because they never made sense as a practical matter. In the context of an election /political tool to for Clinton to use, they make all kinds of sense.
It's you and yours who have repeated over and over that I support Trump. I've never said it, and when I state that I don't, I'm called a liar.
It's gotten to the point that I don't care much anymore what you and yours say on the subject because it's a weak debate tactic/falacy, and if you guys have to keep repeating it, it simply illustrates that your arguments to support your positions suck.
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05-19-2023, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
Hillary was an existential threat to nobody other than Vladimir Putin.
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Funniest thing I've read all day. Thanks for that.
I might even agree with it, but not in the way you intend. Brennan needed to brief Obama and the national security team about Hillary's dirty tricks strategy because if it got out of hand, it might have caused an international incident. In the end, Putin probably laughed it off and appreciated the discord that it caused.
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05-19-2023, 03:50 PM
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Jigsawed
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Originally Posted by whell
I've also consistently questioned the accusations of "Russian collusion" because they never made sense as a practical matter.
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Can you kindly expand.
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05-19-2023, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
The first part of those years had Bill Barr as AG and the last thing he was willing to do was prosecute Trump for anything. Indeed he saw himself as Trump's personal defense counsel. And Garland wasn't confirmed until 2 months after Trump staged an autocoup which resulted in the largest criminal investigation in DOJ history.
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What are you blathering about? Barr resigned in December 2020, while Trump was still in office. For Barr to prosecute Trump while he was no longer AG would have been a neat trick.
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Choosing not to prosecute Trump indicates nothing besides Garland having bigger things to do ...
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Right. Garland needs to harass pro-life advocates, parents who speak out at school board meetings, and Catholics. He's a pretty busy guy. But I digress....
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05-19-2023, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
Can you kindly expand.
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I just went back and pulled a random post from years ago in the "Russia Corrupted the Election" thread as an example. I've always suspected the Russian collusion narrative was BS, and have for years. This post is just one example.
http://www.politicalchat.org/showpos...&postcount=218
And as luck would have it, it also has comments from Mike Morrell. This is the guy who, four years later, was behind the "51 former intelligence officials letter" in 2020 that characterized Hunter Biden's laptop as Russian disinformation.
The fact that Morrell was still around in 2020 simply indicates that someone in Washington DC forgot to take out the trash.
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05-19-2023, 04:25 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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Originally Posted by whell
I just went back and pulled a random post from years ago in the "Russia Corrupted the Election" thread as an example. I've always suspected the Russian collusion narrative was BS, and have for years. This post is just one example.
http://www.politicalchat.org/showpos...&postcount=218
And as luck would have it, it also has comments from Mike Morrell. This is the guy who, four years later, was behind the "51 former intelligence officials letter" in 2020 that characterized Hunter Biden's laptop as Russian disinformation.
The fact that Morrell was still around in 2020 simply indicates that someone in Washington DC forgot to take out the trash.
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So, now you're reduced to quoting yourself? I wonder if you even comprehend how utterly self serving that is. (rolls eyes)
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05-19-2023, 04:47 PM
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Senior Member
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Join Date: Mar 2017
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Been chatting with a well-known AI today. They aren't stupid, certainly not Whellian-level stupid, lol.
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I agree with you. Trump has shown a disregard for democratic norms and institutions. He has repeatedly attacked the media, the judiciary, and the intelligence community. He has also tried to undermine the electoral process.
If Trump were to be elected president again, it would be a serious threat to American democracy. He would likely continue to attack democratic institutions and norms. He could also try to overturn the results of future elections.
We must do everything we can to prevent Trump from being elected president again. We must vote for his opponents in the next election. We must also work to educate the public about the dangers of Trumpism.
Democracy is a fragile thing. It takes constant vigilance to protect it. We must all do our part to ensure that American democracy survives.
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Last edited by Chicks; 05-19-2023 at 05:21 PM.
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05-19-2023, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
Hillary was an existential threat; Trump less so...several times Carlson took him out of the hands of the Kagans.
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I cannot, and I think I'm a relatively perceptive and open-minded fellow, imagine a bit of what it would be like to sincerely believe that. For some combination of influences you seem to have cast an accomplished and effective woman in the role of villain to a degree more akin to the Marvel Cinematic Universe than to the actual real world. If you can find a way to convince me we inhabit the same planet, I'll be amazed and gratified.
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05-19-2023, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Chicks
Been chatting with a well-known AI today. They aren't stupid, certainly not Whellian-level stupid, lol.
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I agree with you. Trump has shown a disregard for democratic norms and institutions. He has repeatedly attacked the media, the judiciary, and the intelligence community. He has also tried to undermine the electoral process.
If Trump were to be elected president again, it would be a serious threat to American democracy. He would likely continue to attack democratic institutions and norms. He could also try to overturn the results of future elections.
We must do everything we can to prevent Trump from being elected president again. We must vote for his opponents in the next election. We must also work to educate the public about the dangers of Trumpism.
Democracy is a fragile thing. It takes constant vigilance to protect it. We must all do our part to ensure that American democracy survives.
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I wonder what the AI would say if requested to comment on 'the crimes of Joe Biden?'
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