Durham's Investigations Fizzles

[whell]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

1. Sorry but: What a stupid fucking comment. We knew from the beginning that Mueller complied with DOJ policies, when he took the assignment...and that there would be no recommendstion for a DOJ indictment. But you say he could have? I suppose he could have, he could have also fucked your grandmother.

2. You said he was "trolling Hillary". You saw it as a fucking joke. If you're not gonna stand behind the things you say...you’re a useless plonker.

At the very least, screwing someone else could be considered progress over your usual pastime of screwing yourself.

As far as what Mueller said:

In early May, Attorney General William Barr testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee that Mueller "reiterated several times in a group meeting that he was not saying that but for the OLC opinion, he would have found obstruction."

Earlier, during the Judiciary hearing, Republican Rep. Ken Buck of Colorado also asked Mueller about charging Trump.

Mueller says a president can be charged with obstruction after leaving office

"Was there sufficient evidence to convict President Trump or anyone else with obstruction of justice?" Buck asked.

"We did not make that calculation," Mueller said, citing the OLC opinion.

Buck later asked, "Could you charge a president with a crime after he left office?"

"Yes," Mueller replied.

"You believe that he committed — you could charge the President of the United States with obstruction of justice after he left office?" Buck continued.

"Yes," Mueller answered.

What did the media think about this exchange?

"OMG Buck just walked RIGHT into it. He seriously just gave the Democrats the clip they want. He just gave Mueller a clear and concise moment to say the only reason Trump wasn't indicted is because DOJ policy prohibited it," tweeted national security lawyer Bradley Moss.

Which, of course, is bullshit. Because here we are 3 plus years later and there has been no effort to bring any criminal charges against Trump for the items reviewed by Mueller. But, you guys did get your talking point, lame is the passage of time has rendered it.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Please point me to any post where I stated that Trump was "innocent" or that Mueller, Durham or anyone else in the DC clown car stated this. Or are you just making shit up again because your other arguments have collapsed?

WTF? Defending Trump is your entire raison d'être on this board. You mutter "no collusion, no obstruction" in your sleep.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by finnbow

WTF? Defending Trump is your entire raison d'être on this board. You mutter "no collusion, no obstruction" in your sleep.

No. Jerking us around is his entire raison d'être on this board. Seeming to take positions and then denying them is one of his methods.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by whell

Which, of course, is bullshit. Because here we are 3 plus years later and there has been no effort to bring any criminal charges against Trump for the items reviewed by Mueller. But, you guys did get your talking point, lame is the passage of time has rendered it.

Actually, I disagree. Going after Trump for collusion would have been sucker play, fraught with he said, she said and its not like the Russians are going to be credible witnesses if they show up at all.

Instead there are three much more serious punishable crimes DJT has committed.

1. GA election interference with several immunities granted.
2. Insurrection, which will label him a traitor.
3. Stealing classified documents, labeling him a thief.

And all three cases are progressing at full steam and yesterday former WH lawyer Cobb said he expects Trump to be jailed. Now that wouldn't be so lame would it?

Trump’s White House lawyer predicts he’ll end up in jail as Mar-a-Lago probe heats up

Ty Cobb’s prediction came as it was revealed that the National Archives had found a trove of records allegedly proving the former president knew he shouldn’t have taken classified documents to Mar-a-Lago

Soon to progress from a front runner to a criminal. Will happen? Dunno, but he sure as hell will be campaigning with the threat hovering over him. Self exile in Moscow will be his only choice.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2342275.html

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Which, of course, is bullshit. Because here we are 3 plus years later and there has been no effort to bring any criminal charges against Trump for the items reviewed by Mueller. But, you guys did get your talking point, lame is the passage of time has rendered it.

The first part of those years had Bill Barr as AG and the last thing he was willing to do was prosecute Trump for anything. Indeed he saw himself as Trump's personal defense counsel. And Garland wasn't confirmed until 2 months after Trump staged an autocoup which resulted in the largest criminal investigation in DOJ history.

Choosing not to prosecute Trump indicates nothing besides Garland having bigger things to do and not wanting to appear vindictive toward Biden's political opponent. For example, besides the 4 clear counts of obstruction of justice in L'Affaire Russe, he had an absolute slam dunk indictment sitting on the back burner for Individual #1 in the Stormy Daniels affair (for which Michael Cohen did jail time). However, a violent insurrection based upon Trump's election lies and stealing hundreds of classified documents (and obstructing their recovery) forced his hand. And here we sit today awaiting multiple felony indictments for Trump on both state and federal charges.

[Dondilion]

At least Trump prevented the coronation of Hillary.

Whell has done a good job so far and he succeeded without hysteria.

His use of the famous Mueller is effective. One can remember Mueller was awaited with such great expectation as the knight in shining armor to deliver the goods.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

At least Trump prevented the coronation of Hillary.

With an assist from your boy Vlad.

One can remember Mueller was awaited with such great expectation as the knight in shining armor to deliver the goods.

Which Bill Barr, at Trump's behest, killed in the crib. That said, Mueller did indict a couple dozen of your fellow travelers.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

At least Trump prevented the coronation of Hillary.

Say what you want about Hillary but with reference to tRump...

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

At least Trump prevented the coronation of Hillary.

Whell has done a good job so far and he succeeded without hysteria.

His use of the famous Mueller is effective. One can remember Mueller was awaited with such great expectation as the knight in shining armor to deliver the goods.

Coronation of Hillary would have been worse than the four years of Trump's criminal enterprise?.

Any idea how many of his cohorts have been charged with crimes. Here is a short list.

Steve Bannon, Tom Barrack, Elliot Broidy, Michael Cohen, Michael Flynn, Rick Gates, Paul Manafort, George Nader, George Papadopoulos, Roger Stone and his CFO Weisselberg.

But wait, Hillary's server!!! Of course most in Trump's administration used their private emails for government business. And I did not even support HRC.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Coronation of Hillary would have been worse than the four years of Trump's criminal enterprise?.

Any idea how many of his cohorts have been charged with crimes. Here is a short list.

Steve Bannon, Tom Barrack, Elliot Broidy, Michael Cohen, Michael Flynn, Rick Gates, Paul Manafort, George Nader, George Papadopoulos, Roger Stone and his CFO Weisselberg.

But wait, Hillary's server!!! Of course most in Trump's administration used their private emails for government business. And I did not even support HRC.

Hillary was an existential threat; Trump less so...several times Carlson took him out of the hands of the Kagans.