Trump Is on Point: The Covid-infected Are Fleeing Mexico…for US Hospitals

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

You may come around someday, when the virus strikes home personally for you. Or you may not. For some people, identity/ideology preservation becomes more vital than the preservation of life itself. Rather few of them showed up at at Tulsa, though. The death cult is not as mighty as it's master hoped.

Nope. It already has in my circle of friends. I also have a friend who died in an auto accident. I still drive. Life is risk. I choose to live it to the full. If you are afraid of other people's breath, by all means get yourself a REAL full face mask with replaceable canisters.

But do not presume to believe your sensibilities are correct. Watch Monk some time. The Monks of the world do not control the rest of us. They control their space. We can respect that, though we may be sad for them or laugh at them behind their backs, but we're certainly not going to adjust our lives because of their "unreasonable" fears.

And to be clear, the things Monk is afraid of really ARE things that can make you sick or even kill you, but reasonable people accept that risk every day and have for millennia.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

You may come around someday, when the virus strikes home personally for you.

My wife had the flu for four weeks and almost died. We still don't do flu shots (or wear those useless masks).

My brother had it for six weeks in Seattle and even ended up in ER. He had had a flu shot.

We trust in the Lord right up until this body we occupy ceases to live.

[FordGT90]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

And the spike in Central Florida, and Georgia?

Anecdotally.
My daughter who is a RN and works in a large hospital in Central Florida says there are hardly any Mexicans in the spike in her area.

Retirement homes?

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by FordGT90

Retirement homes?

One thing I've noticed on youtube regarding nurses with anecdotal information: The ones that say they are living in a hospital nightmare and being overwhelmed with cases are left up. The ones where the nurses say they are killing people with ventilators, or they are not seeing any patients, etc., are taken down.

But at the end of the day, anecdotal is anecdotal. Just because you may know a guy that died of the plague doesn't mean we should all hunker down and check for fleas.

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

^^^depraved disregard for the welfare of others.

Funny, his cult leader now says it's "patriotic" to wear a mask. Guess he didn't get the memo.

[Chicks]

Orange Shitstain (and his cultists) Wrongly Blame Protests, Mexico for COVID-19 Spread

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/07/tr...vid-19-spread/

Nor did the experts we contacted believe there is any validity to Trump’s assertion that Mexico has contributed to the rise of cases in the U.S.

“The role of Mexican migrants is utterly without foundation, and surely can’t explain upsurges in the Southeast, Northern California, and many other parts of the country,” Lipsitch told us.

On March 21, Mexico and the U.S. jointly restricted nonessential land travel between the two countries to prevent spread of the coronavirus. Nonessential travel includes travel that is considered tourism or recreation. At least one Mexican state completely closed its border with the U.S. ahead of the July 4 holiday, fearing spread of the virus from the U.S. into Mexico.

Statistics from U.S. Customs and Border Protection show that apprehensions of people crossing the Mexican border illegally into the U.S. have been relatively low in the first half of 2020 compared with 2019.

Trump suggested that a rise in coronavirus cases in the Southwest may be due, in part, to the U.S. sharing a 2,000-mile border with Mexico — where he said cases are “surging.” But Adalja said that is likely “mere coincidence,” considering that states like Florida, Delaware and some in the Midwest are not border states, and yet have also seen spikes in coronavirus infections.

“I don’t think there’s any evidence that Mexico has anything to do with case increases and hospitalization increases in those areas [along the border],” Adalja said. “There’s no evidence of that.”

“It is possible that some infected people may cross borders, but that could probably work in both directions,” Goodman told us. “Again, I’m not aware it is a significant contributor to the U.S. upswing which has generally correlated with relaxation of social distancing.”

His cultist idiots willingly believe ANYTHING this lying piece of shit says, no matter how far-fetched. Witness this very thread.

[RickeyM]

It takes an awful lot of gullibility to swallow that immigrants are the cause of rising cases and Donny's vaunted wall has cut down, in historic numbers, the numbers of immigrants coming across the border.

[Mark B]

Nothing to see here - just the Insane one trying to waste people's time and attempt to gull the incredulous.

[FordGT90]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

It takes an awful lot of gullibility to swallow that immigrants are the cause of rising cases and Donny's vaunted wall has cut down, in historic numbers, the numbers of immigrants coming across the border.

Consider this: there are approximately 11 million undocumented immigrants in the USA. There are 4.2 million documented cases of COVID-19 in the USA. Gives both populations scale, doesn't it?


If you want to protect yourself from people not wearing masks, use a disposable N95 mask.

[FordGT90]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

It takes an awful lot of gullibility to swallow that immigrants are the cause of rising cases and Donny's vaunted wall has cut down, in historic numbers, the numbers of immigrants coming across the border.

Green card carrying people presenting at the border are one source of COVID-19 cases climbing in USA. They're not the only source because cases have been rising sharply pretty much everywhere in the country:
https://graphics.reuters.com/HEALTH-...kpb/index.html

Really, the significance of these immigrants is that they're causing ICUs to fill up along the border because they're receiving cases from USA and Mexico. I provided sources evidencing that in the second post of this thread. Texas and California are on the brink of going full lockdown again because their ICUs are almost full where the rest of the states aren't even though they have similar case rates. At face value that makes Texas and California stand out as significant and abnormal...they border Mexico. New Mexico and Arizona don't have it as bad because it's mostly brutal desert where few cross.



Illegal immigration is down since the Obama administration:

...but it likely has more to do with rhetoric and working with Mexico than border walls.