Monuments and Myths

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Much like Gen. Patton being held back at the Elbe, we missed an opportunity to pull it up, root and branch.

We're outta gas. Dammit.

Rockefeller almost stopped the D-day invasion by refusing to provide the fuel.

IIRC, the gov't threatened to nationalize Standard Oil, and he relented.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Constitution be damned, eh?

Nope. Constitutionally of course. That is assumed.

At least one side respects the constitution.

I was driving on lake city way by Roosevelt a few days ago (seattle area) and noticed, spray painted on a billboard, the phrase, "Trump is Satan." I said to my wife, "It's interesting that when you see those antics it is virtually always one particular side of the political spectrum.". And there are a lot of 2016 youtube videos of people stealing president candidate yard signs. I believe every single one was an attempt to steal a Trump sign. Again, same comment.

Yet they accuse the conservative side of throwing out the constitution.

Projection.

In fact, the three primary debate tools of the left are
Projection
Deflection
Ad Hominem

These threads are rife with it.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

We're outta gas. Dammit.

Rockerfeller almost stopped the D-day invasion by refusing to provide the fuel.

IIRC, the gov't threatened to nationalize Standard Oil, and he relented.

Gotta love those scions of the plutocracy. We need us some guillotines in this country.

Have Skilsaw - Will Travel.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Not Insane

Nope. Constitutionally of course. That is assumed.

At least one side respects the constitution.

Sez the guy who thinks that Nazi cow Ingraham is the shiznit.

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by Not Insane

Some wealth and power came from slavery. For millennia.

But not all. Most came from cheap labor or outright theft.

But a lot came from good old hard work and inventiveness.

US Civil War and the South reasoning's, excuses, rational was the subject of my post.

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by Oerets

Going back to the end of the CW Lincoln plan and General Sherman implemented the 40 aches and a mule. To be funded by the property of former slaver owners. Reversed by Johnson within months.

40 acres and a mule was Plan B.

Plan A was deportation to colonies in Liberia and Panama.

Granted, there was enough compassion somewhere to not enforce Plan A once the Black leaders declined.

Johnson's reversal lead to the Trail of Tears. Survivors of the death march managed to thrive after many hard decades on reservations.

And then we had the Tulsa Massacre. I understand the Black folk's resentment. But if they want to kill me because I'm white, I'm not on board for that.

[Oerets]

The fact remains fortunes were made in and from slavery. From the capture transportation sale exploitation. There is still families and companies around today that their wealth can be traced back to.

The orignal perpetrators of slavery in the USA are the evil ones. They are responsible for the mess they created. The people are here and have rights. The can has been kicked down the road for a long time.

The Blacks I know all say all they want is equality not retribution.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Not Insane

Nope. Constitutionally of course. That is assumed.

At least one side respects the constitution.

I was driving on lake city way by Roosevelt a few days ago (seattle area) and noticed, spray painted on a billboard, the phrase, "Trump is Satan." I said to my wife, "It's interesting that when you see those antics it is virtually always one particular side of the political spectrum.". And there are a lot of 2016 youtube videos of people stealing president candidate yard signs. I believe every single one was an attempt to steal a Trump sign. Again, same comment.

Yet they accuse the conservative side of throwing out the constitution.

Projection.

In fact, the three primary debate tools of the left are
Projection
Deflection
Ad Hominem

These threads are rife with it.

Oh bullshit. Are your eyes brown?

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

I understand the Black folk's resentment. But if they want to kill me because I'm white, I'm not on board for that.

In two sentences you sum up the spirit of my perspective on this whole thing.

BTW, I've been around a few indian reservations. The road to success for anyone on the reservation is to leave it and all its "benefits".

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

Nah.

Lee should've flanked the Yankees at Gettysburg, on both ends. Set up shop in DC.

Then given his slaves 40 acres and a mule.

He tried. Ran into Yankees who didn't know Lee was supposed to win. On both ends.