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Chicks 06-23-2020 12:08 PM

Monuments and Myths
 
Ken Burns: Our monuments are representations of myth, not fact
Our most venerated monuments represent a mythology. While we may hope the statue represents our highest aspirations of what America can and should be. It also can be a reminder of where and how far we fall short.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video...6c2_video.html

Chicks 06-24-2020 09:41 AM

MBCB Statement on Flag
Mississippi Baptist Convention Board gave a statement on the Mississippi State Flag at a press conference on June 23, 2020.

https://vimeo.com/431964145

“While some may see the current flag as a celebration of heritage, a significant portion of our state sees it as a relic of racism and a symbol of hatred. The racial overtones of this flag’s appearance make this discussion a moral issue.”

Chicks 06-24-2020 09:44 AM

Walmart stops displaying the Mississippi state flag in stores because of Confederate flag imagery

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/23/busin...ate/index.html

Chicks 06-24-2020 11:28 AM

Why the 'romance' of plantation estates is more dangerous than confederate statues

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...derate-statues

Quote:

Like all symbols, monuments to the Confederate south, the lost cause, are not confined to the public square. On the contrary, they are projected onto the silver screen, in our backyards, making up the names of countless suburban developments, shopping centers and schools. In Charleston, South Carolina, in particular, they undergird a billion-dollar tourist industry.

Not Insane 06-24-2020 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 384940)
Why the 'romance' of plantation estates is more dangerous than confederate statues

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...derate-statues

Does Auschwitz still stand? Do people still visit it?

Why is that?

Chicks 06-24-2020 12:38 PM

The night they’ll tear old Dixie down
For generations, a single street paying homage to Robert E. Lee and his Confederate allies has upheld Richmond’s racist foundations. Change is coming.

https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/21...m-george-floyd

donquixote99 06-24-2020 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not Insane (Post 384947)
Does Auschwitz still stand? Do people still visit it?

Why is that?

Nazis, again, from you.

Not Insane 06-24-2020 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 384967)
Nazis, again, from you.

Deflection. I did not mention Nazis. I mentioned the preservation of a place where very bad things happened to people at the hands of other people.

The question is, why does it still stand? Why do they not tear it down? Why do they not erase the history?

Chicks 06-24-2020 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 384967)
Nazis, again, from you.

There Are No Nostalgic Nazi Memorials
Americans could learn from how drastically German society has moved away from the nadir of its history.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...orials/597937/

Quote:

On the site of Buchenwald, where as many as a quarter of a million inmates were held, a museum dispels any notion that the citizens of the nearby cultural capital Weimar were unaware of what was happening in their midst during World War II. The idea that tourists would visit such a place seeking smiling women in dirndls—much as some visit American plantations looking for ladies in hoop skirts—is obscene. Not even members of Germany’s right-wing Alternative for Germany party would suggest glorifying that part of the past.
Some here would, though, obviously. Disgusting.

Not Insane 06-24-2020 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 384974)
There Are No Nostalgic Nazi Memorials
Americans could learn from how drastically German society has moved away from the nadir of its history.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...orials/597937/



Some here would, though, obviously. Disgusting.

I seriously doubt that.

They have some civil war memorials here where i live and even have CW re-enactments in Perryville, near where I live. They do historical justice to what was going on on and around the battlefield. It's really quite a thing to experience and I highly recommend it. It was very powerful for me when I first saw it, being from Seattle. But it does not glorify slavery or the battle itself. It was a bloody mess - and that is the story they tell.


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