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Old 03-06-2017, 09:37 AM
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Yes.

I am convinced that the Trump/Russian connection is a ridiculous conspiracy cooked up by the Deep State to undermine Trump.
Convinced based on what?
Flynn resigned, or was he actually fired? Either way why.
Sessions recused himself and why if he is not culpable?
I am more than suspicious that the Russians meddled in our election, question remains why.
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Old 03-06-2017, 09:44 AM
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What Russia gets from Trump:

1. No US opposition in Syria.
2. No US opposition in Ukraine
3. No US action to support European 'allies.'
4. Possible US action vs Iran.
5. U.S. economy crippled by irrational trade policies.
6. US politically crippled by internal unrest.

That's just for starters.
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Old 03-06-2017, 10:04 AM
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What Russia gets from Trump:

1. No US opposition in Syria.
2. No US opposition in Ukraine
3. No US action to support European 'allies.'
4. Possible US action vs Iran.
5. U.S. economy crippled by irrational trade policies.
6. US politically crippled by internal unrest.

That's just for starters.
1) Anyone really wants to US to get mix up in Syria?

2) Ukraine is now run by right wing bandits. The Central Government has very limited power. It is a Frankenstein state.

3) Trump's call for the wealthy Europeans to help themselves (2%GDP) has engendered European defense spending.

5)Trump needs no Russian help in this regard. There is enough local consensus.

6) US is a vibrant democracy.

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Old 03-06-2017, 10:22 AM
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Steve Martin.
I was thinking John Mellencamp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=malnd19Ttyk
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Old 03-06-2017, 10:23 AM
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Convinced based on what?
My gut.

All 41 inches of it
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Old 03-06-2017, 11:03 AM
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What Russia gets from Trump:

1. No US opposition in Syria.
2. No US opposition in Ukraine
3. No US action to support European 'allies.'
4. Possible US action vs Iran.
5. U.S. economy crippled by irrational trade policies.
6. US politically crippled by internal unrest.

That's just for starters.
He had all that with Obama.
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Old 03-06-2017, 01:03 PM
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Then he should have supported Clinton, instead of Trump.
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Old 03-06-2017, 02:50 PM
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To which alleged libel of Obama are you referring?

Libel is a civil court issue, not congressional.
This country really does not have libel laws.
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Old 03-06-2017, 04:00 PM
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This country really does not have libel laws.
That's right. Now it is known as defamation, which encompasses both libel and slander.
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Old 03-06-2017, 05:01 PM
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Sean Spicer completely cleared up things about Trump's allegations. He wouldn't say whether Trump had personally seen evidence of a wire tap; whether he relied on Breitbart news to inform him; whether he was accusing Obama of breaking the law; or whether he would accept the results of a congressional investigation of the matter.

So how did he clear it up? "I'm just going to let the tweet speak for itself."
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