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Old 01-24-2017, 04:08 PM
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What falsehood? The Post reported his Federal Register notice, reportedly done to compensate for the fact that “Trump has been resentful, even furious, at what he views as the media’s failure to reflect the magnitude of his achievements, and he feels demoralized that the public’s perception of his presidency so far does not necessarily align with his own sense of accomplishment." These emotions/feelings were amplified yesterday in Sean Spicer's press conference when he went on for nearly 10 minutes about how demoralized Trump was that not everybody is in his thrall.

Sorry if his own words demonstrate to anyone with even a hint of skepticism that your Trumpenfuhrer is an insecure, narcissistic, vain-glorious manchild. Amazingly, it doesn't demonstrate that to you.
There are the falsehoods. But I'm sure it makes you feel better to believe that tripe. Past presidents have made similar proclamations. Here's Obama's:

https://web.archive.org/web/20091101...nciliation2009

Here's an excerpt from Obama's:

We are in the midst of a season of trial. Our Nation is being tested, and our people know great uncertainty. Yet the story of America is one of renewal in the face of adversity, reconciliation in a time of discord, and we know that there is a purpose for everything under heaven
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On this Inauguration Day, we are reminded that we are heirs to over two centuries of American democracy, and that this legacy is not simply a birthright -- it is a glorious burden. Now it falls to us to come together as a people to carry it forward once more.

Here's an excerpt from Trump's:

Freedom is the birthright of all Americans, and to preserve that freedom we must maintain faith in our sacred values and heritage.

Our Constitution is written on parchment, but it lives in the hearts of the American people. There is no freedom where the people do not believe in it; no law where the people do not follow it; and no peace where the people do not pray for it.

There are no greater people than the American citizenry, and as long as we believe in ourselves, and our country, there is nothing we cannot accomplish
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I don't see anything necessarily sinister in either the words used by either President, or either President's release of a proclamation on their first day in office. But apparently you see something sinister in Trump's because....well....Trump did it. Horrors!

You flippin' tool.
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Old 01-24-2017, 04:22 PM
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Why is it that I can easily imagine Mike stabbing at his keyboard and stamping his feet at the sheer gall and effrontery of people not groveling at the feet of the Orangefaced Shitgibbon that his party elected?
Likely because you're a single minded tool who thinks that everyone who disagrees with you must therefore be categorized, criticized, minimized and dismissed (a variant of the time-honored "shoot the messenger" strategy)....mostly because you don't appear to have the foggiest notion of how to debate such folks without using those tactics....

...or so it seems.
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Old 01-24-2017, 04:34 PM
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There are the falsehoods. But I'm sure it makes you feel better to believe that tripe. Past presidents have made similar proclamations. Here's Obama's:...
If you can't discern the difference in tone and content of these two releases, it just further demonstrates the depth of your "patriotic devotion" to your vainglorious Trumpenfuhrer.
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Old 01-24-2017, 05:17 PM
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If you can't discern the difference in tone and content of these two releases, it just further demonstrates the depth of your "patriotic devotion" to your vainglorious Trumpenfuhrer.
Tone? Tone?!? That's hilarious.
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Old 01-24-2017, 05:30 PM
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Tone? Tone?!? That's hilarious.
It's a safe bet then that you also didn't find the following statement in his inaugural address a bit disingenuous:

When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.
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This is getting bizarre. I remember watching Nixon disintegrating mentally before our very eyes when I lived in the D.C. area. It was clear by early '73 that he was losing his mind. This guy isn't even in office a week and he's already cracking up. That speech at Langley was pretty deranged. I hope the people around him have a plan in place to keep him from nuking Tehran, Karachi or Los Angeles for that matter.
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'Patriotic Devotion' sounds like something Pence and his merry band of bible thumping Domionists cooked up. Reminds me of that saying about fascism coming to America wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.
I read something earlier about a theory in which, somewhere down the line, the GOP moves to sorta depose Trump through impeachment, making Pence our de facto president. Interesting thought.
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It's a safe bet then that you also didn't find the following statement in his inaugural address a bit disingenuous:

When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.
Patriotism is fine. What his majesty is proffering isn't patriotism, it's nationalism.

There is a difference.
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I read something earlier about a theory in which, somewhere down the line, the GOP moves to sorta depose Trump through impeachment, making Pence our de facto president. Interesting thought.
No until they get their agenda rammed thru.

What is making me worried about the new guy, is what happens once the day today work of running the country hits him. Right now he is in the frenzy and spotlight of issuing executive actions. Loves the attention and every day something huge to issue. Fast and furious, overwhelming any opposition with so many fronts to fight.
But what is going to happen when it slows down and the adulation and attention is less? His ego needs the constant attention to be happy.


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Old 01-25-2017, 07:01 AM
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Patriotism is fine. What his majesty is proffering isn't patriotism, it's nationalism.

There is a difference.
I understand it as throwing a bone to the rubes in the following way "You folks are patriotic, so you can't be racist. The left, OTOH, doesn't wrap itself in the flag like us and is therefore racist."
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Old 01-25-2017, 07:18 AM
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It's a safe bet then that you also didn't find the following statement in his inaugural address a bit disingenuous:

When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.
Doesn't really matter what I thought about it, does it? Obviously you've seen fit to let your imagination run wild with all manner of possibilities.
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