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08-20-2016, 10:19 PM
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After eight years of Barack "Give Away the Store" Obama, it would be a refreshing change to hear some tough talk come out of the White House.
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You're not giving away the store if the goods you're holding aren't yours.
Joad? Your thoughts are idiocy.
I've been out of the loop but that remains the same.
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08-21-2016, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
Or, we could have just sent them the "new toys" through a drug dealing South American dictator like Saint Ronnie did! 
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Failed analogy, but nice try.
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08-21-2016, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
Failed analogy, but nice try. 
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One was legal the other not!
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08-21-2016, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Oerets
One was legal the other not!
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You can try to make yourself feel better with that brain - dead argument. Fact is, there's a good reason the US does not pay ransom for hostages. For instance, according to Barry himself:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...-policy-review
I am reaffirming that the United States government will not make concessions, such as paying ransom, to terrorist groups holding American hostages.
I firmly believe that the United States government paying ransom to terrorists risks endangering more Americans and funding the very terrorism that we’re trying to stop. And so I firmly believe that our policy ultimately puts fewer Americans at risk.
So, we'll see if Obama's payment of ransom ultimately results in additional targeting of US citizens. Hell, Obama's own Justice Dept warned against making the payment. In the meantime, there are already reports out there that indicate our payment to Iran has already been redirected to Iran's military.
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08-21-2016, 12:32 PM
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What part of 'it was their money in the first place' doesn't penetrate your thick skull, Mike?
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08-21-2016, 12:34 PM
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What you don't get is the simple fact, it was not ransom!
""If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."" J Goebbels
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08-21-2016, 01:12 PM
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Loyal Opposition
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Originally Posted by Oerets
What you don't get is the simple fact, it was not ransom!
""If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."" J Goebbels
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Don't expect him to let the truth get in the way of his talking point. He has his orders.
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08-21-2016, 01:42 PM
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Question I have for you whell is has Obama done anything right in his 7.5+ years?
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08-21-2016, 01:43 PM
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So the gas company or electric company or landlord or IRS can take your kids until you pay up?
Or is this method only allowed to foreign governments bent on our destruction?
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08-21-2016, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Wasillaguy
So the gas company or electric company or landlord or IRS can take your kids until you pay up?
Or is this method only allowed to foreign governments bent on our destruction?
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The gas company and electric company are constrained by a sovereign government with laws against that, for the time being at least. Other sovereign governments than our own face no such overall constraint, so relations with them can be more chaotic. You know--like a libertarian anarchy.
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