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Old 08-20-2016, 04:12 PM
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Well, it certainly won't improve their behavior, that's for damn sure.
How can you be so sure of that? I think you can't - you speak out of ideology, rather than on the basis of empirical evidence. It seems to me that having a reason to trust the U.S. might make a positive difference, however slight.
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We are a country that honors treaties and pays it's bills.
Sure we do.

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Old 08-20-2016, 04:43 PM
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Damn, you talk almost as tough as der Trumpenfuhrer.
After eight years of Barack "Give Away the Store" Obama, it would be a refreshing change to hear some tough talk come out of the White House.
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After eight years of Barack "Give Away the Store" Obama, it would be a refreshing change to hear some tough talk come out of the White House.
You've gone completely 'Alt-right', haven't you, trumpkins?
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Old 08-20-2016, 07:00 PM
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How can you be so sure of that? I think you can't - you speak out of ideology, rather than on the basis of empirical evidence. It seems to me that having a reason to trust the U.S. might make a positive difference, however slight.
Oh yeah, Don. It certainly sounds like they trust us and want to play nice in the sandbox.

https://www.rt.com/news/345290-iran-leader-blasts-us/

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ir...-idUSKCN0ZN2JV

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/majid-...b_9977768.html
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Old 08-20-2016, 07:56 PM
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Old 08-20-2016, 08:28 PM
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Oh yeah, Don. It certainly sounds like they trust us and want to play nice in the sandbox.

https://www.rt.com/news/345290-iran-leader-blasts-us/
They are right not to trust us. I don't trust us. When have we ever dealt with Iran in good faith?

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May 15, 2016

These articles are about the same tests, not separate ones which is what you no doubt hope we'll assume.
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Old 08-20-2016, 08:54 PM
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When the US plays dirty it is to be overlooked don't you know. The old saying seems to play well here...


""Do as I say not as I do!""

The US government thru it's CIA activities warranted to some degree granted have perpetrated bad acts. Still do to this day. Our hands are not clean to say the least.

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Old 08-20-2016, 09:37 PM
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They are right not to trust us. I don't trust us. When have we ever dealt with Iran in good faith?
Gee, I thought that was what the Iran Nuke Deal was all about? Obama wants improved relations with Iran as part of his legacy...apparently cost be damned.
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Does anyone remember why we are holding on to Iranian assets in the first place? As far back as the Carter administration, Iranian assets were frozen because of Iran's behavior - the take-over the US embassy and detaining US hostages. Obama did it again in 2012 because Iran was using its banking system as a money laundering function to fund terrorism...again, because of Iran's behavior.

I'm delighted that we got our hostages back, but does anyone think Iran's behavior will be changing anytime soon? Does anyone think that the money that was paid for the hostages - some or all of it - won't end up buying some terrorists some new toys to wreak havoc with?
Or, we could have just sent them the "new toys" through a drug dealing South American dictator like Saint Ronnie did!
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