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Old 08-19-2016, 07:16 PM
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I don't have to "read the article".

I can tell it's bullshit just from the discussion about it.
Of course you won't read the article. It might pop that bubble you live in.
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Old 08-19-2016, 07:42 PM
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The crux of this is simple, the money was not ours, Iran's. Never was anything else! Sell the arms to them now? No way!

The US was going to have a judgment costing a whole lot more against it. The ""prisoners"" were part of a deal for normalization of relations and any funds owed were to be repaid. Period!


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Old 08-19-2016, 08:29 PM
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I don't agree with the concept of dual citizenship.

Citizenship should be "one to a customer".


I'd allow kids with legitimate claims to more than one to stay in a limbo status until their 18th birthday. Then it's decision time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cypJhxt6E8
I agree with you on principle and people with dual citizenship's typically have mixed loyalties which is not good. But it is not a US decision whether to allow dual citizenship but the country the immigrant hails from and/or citizen of prior to applying for US citizenship.
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Old 08-20-2016, 12:04 AM
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Indeed, the US was subject to an international judgment for seizure of the funds.
An International Judgement?!

That and four bucks will get them a Latte at Starbucks.

We're a Rouge Superpower. We bomb whoever we feel like bombing. We invade whoever we feel like invading. And we can tell them to stick that "International Judgement" where the sun don't shine.
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Old 08-20-2016, 07:05 AM
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An International Judgement?!

That and four bucks will get them a Latte at Starbucks.

We're a Rouge Superpower. We bomb whoever we feel like bombing. We invade whoever we feel like invading. And we can tell them to stick that "International Judgement" where the sun don't shine.
Damn, you talk almost as tough as der Trumpenfuhrer.
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Old 08-20-2016, 09:18 AM
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An International Judgement?!

That and four bucks will get them a Latte at Starbucks.

We're a Rouge Superpower. We bomb whoever we feel like bombing. We invade whoever we feel like invading. And we can tell them to stick that "International Judgement" where the sun don't shine.
How does that translate to governance of the people of this country? Should we citizens stick the "constitution" where the sun don't shine.
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Old 08-20-2016, 10:52 AM
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We are a country that honors treaties and pays it's bills. If we don't, let us welcome that "C" credit rating, and join Trump in seeking loans from the Russian Mafia.
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Old 08-20-2016, 11:15 AM
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Does anyone remember why we are holding on to Iranian assets in the first place? As far back as the Carter administration, Iranian assets were frozen because of Iran's behavior - the take-over the US embassy and detaining US hostages. Obama did it again in 2012 because Iran was using its banking system as a money laundering function to fund terrorism...again, because of Iran's behavior.

I'm delighted that we got our hostages back, but does anyone think Iran's behavior will be changing anytime soon? Does anyone think that the money that was paid for the hostages - some or all of it - won't end up buying some terrorists some new toys to wreak havoc with?
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Old 08-20-2016, 11:29 AM
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I'm delighted that we got our hostages back, but does anyone think Iran's behavior will be changing anytime soon? Does anyone think that the money that was paid for the hostages - some or all of it - won't end up buying some terrorists some new toys to wreak havoc with?
Whether they change or not remains to be seen as they have a young, well-educated population, many of whom are pro-Western/American. That said, the receipt of $400 million of their own money will play no role in their future behavior.
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Old 08-20-2016, 04:05 PM
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That said, the receipt of $400 million of their own money will play no role in their future behavior.
Well, it certainly won't improve their behavior, that's for damn sure.
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