Commies for Clinton

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by whell

The views expressed in the article are a fraction of what the Communist party stands for. History shows us the rest. Do you warmly espouse the destruction, death and loss of human rights and freedoms that occur under communist regimes?

In the meantime, here's another angry hater for Hillary, the guy who got his son all cooked up on gay hate:

http://www.wptv.com/news/state/orlan...y-in-kissimmee

You are not that simplistic, although your rhetoric usually is. In Russia, the communists, particularly Stalin, simply replaced another authoritarian ruler. That is not a function of an equitable economic system, but of a cultural predisposition for authoritarian rule. You know as well as I do that the loss of human rights and freedoms, as well as executions also occur under right wing totalitarian regimes.

Tell me about the oppression in Sweden that has occurred as a result of its social democracy.

[Pio1980]

A tyrant is still a tyrant, labels notwithstanding. Anyone have a checklist of all of the freedom loving "George Washingtons" we backed who were demonstrably tyrants?

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[Boreas]

Originally Posted by whell

There's a HUGE chasm between "unreliable" as quoted by a third party polling / research service, and your assertion that I claimed a video/audio recording was faked. As the saying goes, you're entitled to your own opinion, but you're not entitled to your own facts.

So, you are playing the plausible deniability game. I never said that you claimed the article was faked. I asked you whether you thought it was.

Next question: are you prepared to say that the quote in the Buzz Feed article was a faithful representation of the position of the leader of the American Nazi Party regarding Trump?

[whell]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

Tell me about the oppression in Sweden that has occurred as a result of its social democracy.

I know you really, really want to change the topic, but Sweden? Really? Sweden is a parliamentary democracy. It doesn't compare AT ALL to, for example, the government that was in place in the Soviet Union, or currently in China, N Vietnam, etc.

If you think they do, and insist on making that comparison, I'll simply have to pray for your future enlightenment.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Boreas

So, you are playing the plausible deniability game. I never said that you claimed the article was faked. I asked you whether you thought it was.

OK then, and answered. You say that you never said it, an I said that I never claimed it.

Originally Posted by Boreas

Next question: are you prepared to say that the quote in the Buzz Feed article was a faithful representation of the position of the leader of the American Nazi Party regarding Trump?

OK, I'll bite. Sure, why not?

Now, he's only one guy making comments on a radio show that no one listens to.

So, I suspect you'll now attempt to make the point that this means Nazi's everywhere in the US will be running to the polls to pull the lever for Trump. Is that what's coming next, John? If so, you'll have to answer for the disparity between one guy making some general remarks on a radio show on one had, and the internet news vehicle for the Communist Party USA calling for a landslide victory for Clinton.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by whell

OK, I'll bite. Sure, why not?

Now, he's only one guy making comments on a radio show that no one listens to.

So, I suspect you'll now attempt to make the point that this means Nazi's everywhere in the US will be running to the polls to pull the lever for Trump. Is that what's coming next, John? If so, you'll have to answer for the disparity between one guy making some general remarks on a radio show on one had, and the internet news vehicle for the Communist Party USA calling for a landslide victory for Clinton.

That's not my argument and the fact is, neither of us can predict the results of Communist support for Clinton and Nazi support for Trump when it comes to the polls. That was never my point but I can't imagine a Nazi voting for Clinton or a communist voting for Trump.

But let's get back to this where, while claiming that I wanted to change the subject, you did just that. Now, I'd appreciate it if you would address the point I raised.

Contained within the Buzz Feed article is a statement from the leader of the American Nazi Party which expresses the same level of support for Trump as the editorial board of the unofficial organ of the CPUSA expressed fro Clinton. Arguing that these are not equivalent is casuistry (which, considering the source, shouldn't surprise anyone).

http://politicalchat.org/showpost.ph...9&postcount=23

[Pio1980]

Trends are pretty much set between the two, Trump attracts racists, xenophobes, and authoratarian types attracted thru insecurity issues, Hillz is the only alternative with any chance of sending him back to his playpen. Who else are they going to see preferable that's running?

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[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

Trends are pretty much set between the two, Trump attracts racists, xenophobes, and authoratarian types attracted thru insecurity issues, Hillz is the only alternative with any chance of sending him back to his playpen. Who else are they going to see preferable that's running?

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[JJIII]

^^^^

Did you leave something out?

[Pio1980]

I dunno, probably could have added more, but I think those disaffected and disassociated by "the system" are in the category of the insecure, looking for an authoratarian to "shake things up" and get stuff done.

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