Polls - Clinton Fading

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by icenine

Remember Whell's The Romney Surge poll from 2012? We all know how that turned out.

Whell just double-jinxed himself into another Dem victory!

Personally, I'd rather we were behind a couple of points. Hillary always fights harder when she's an underdog. We need to GOTV for November.

[whell]

Originally Posted by icenine

Remember Whell's The Romney Surge poll from 2012? We all know how that turned out.

Whell just double-jinxed himself into another Dem victory!

Uh, not so much. Frankly, if Trump got any bounce at all, it was a modest one. To me, the poll numbers look more like a continuation of something that started before the GOP convention.

[Dondilion]

Clinton does not need this now.

Terry McAuliffe's TPP gaffe.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nton/#comments

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by whell

Uh, not so much. Frankly, if Trump got any bounce at all, it was a modest one. To me, the poll numbers look more like a continuation of something that started before the GOP convention.

Glad to see you're taking your cues from the right people.

http://politicalchat.org/showpost.ph...89&postcount=2

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by 68custom

Still plenty of time for the Orange clown to choke and for enough people to realize he presents a danger.. I hope.

He's already "choked" about 100 times according to conventional "wisdom", and
not only has he survived, he's fucking thriving.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Personally, I'd rather we were behind a couple of points. Hillary always fights harder when she's an underdog. We need to GOTV for November.

Bullshit.

You're scared.

And well you should be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_H-LY4Jb2M

[Pio1980]

Yep, the idiocracy is fact proof.

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[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by icenine

It is not a matter of loyalty but a matter of what is best for America at this time. I don't think you are as familiar as I am with American history but Americans generally elect Presidents that have a broad consensus among most aspects of our society, regardless of party affiliation. Now that was not true with Abraham Lincoln but post Civil War America both parties have nominated people that are palatable to most Americans at a given point.
This includes Nixon, although it may not seem apparent. Clinton, Obama, Eisenhower and Reagan are excellent examples of consensus Presidents.


Believe it or not Clinton is the consensus choice among Democrats, and Trump is among the Republicans that still exist as a party. In November ALL Americans will chose the consensus President. My money is on Hillary because Trump is not a consensus candidate nearly as much as Hillary. Not even close. That is obvious.

I don't why you hate Hillary so much. But the base of the Democratic Party chose her in the primaries just like the GOP base chose Trump. That is how our system works. If most Democrats REALLY had wanted Bernie he would have won, all your constant whining about a "RIGGED" system not withstanding.

Our system is still pretty damn awesome compared to what goes around the world. I would never call our system rigged like I would never call a person a thief until I actually could prove they stole something.

Who gets to decide what is good for America? And where does Hillary get her consensus when a majority of Americans do not approve of her?

Your issue seems to be two fold. One is you really cannot seem to explain nor justify your support of Hillary other than that she is better than Trump. What do you expect trump's supporters to say?

Your second issue seems to be that since you are convinced in your mind that Hillary is best for America, you want the rest of us to follow even though you offer no justification. Again saying she is better than Trump is not saying much, does not take much to rise above that bar.

So all you have left is criticizing or belittling people like me who are independent thinkers and not prone to group think. And this frustrates you.

All you have claimed for the past is months is how Hillary is going to win yet every time I look around she is tanking in the polls. If the primaries were not rigged why did DWS resign in disgrace and why did the DNC openly apologize to Bernie?

So who here is not accepting facts? I may not be up in US history like you but I am really not that dumb to fall for the DNC subterfuge either. You really think Hillary was the best candidate the Democrats could have come up with this time?

[barbara]

I'm sick and tired of people saying that the only defense for supporting Hilary is that she isn't Trump.

Several times, several posters have given legitimate reasons for supporting Hilary, citing her many years of experience, extensive international and domestic knowledge, and accomplishments.

Yes, she has her flaws, just like anyone else.... I'm not saying she is perfect. But she also has the resume to back up her qualification for the job.

[68custom]

Originally Posted by barbara

I'm sick and tired of people saying that the only defense for supporting Hilary is that she isn't Trump.

Several times, several posters have given legitimate reasons for supporting Hilary, citing her many years of experience, extensive international and domestic knowledge, and accomplishments.

Yes, she has her flaws, just like anyone else.... I'm not saying she is perfect. But she also has the resume to back up her qualification for the job.

well said! +1