What's She Hiding Now?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Boreas

None beyond the troublesome fact that it's quite possibly a violation of the aforementioned section of the US Code and possibly the Hatch Act as well. It's different for civil servants such as you were.

If I'm not mistaken, she was a civil servant at the time.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by finnbow

If I'm not mistaken, she was a civil servant at the time.

I don't believe members of the president's cabinet are considered civil servants.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Boreas

I don't believe members of the president's cabinet are considered civil servants.

I believe they are when it comes to which rules they have to follow (i.e., they have to follow Executive Branch rules of conduct (generally stricter in terms of conflict of interests), not the laxer Congressional ones).

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by finnbow

I believe they are when it comes to which rules they have to follow (i.e., they have to follow Executive Branch rules of conduct (generally stricter in terms of conflict of interests), not the laxer Congressional ones).

Either way we have the Hatch Act.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Either way we have the Hatch Act.

Actually, no. The Hatch Act does not apply to the Legislative Branch, nor to certain exceptions in the Executive Branch (persons in the Executive Office of the President and appointees approved by the Senate, with the specific exception of the Secretary of State (it applies to the SoS)).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatch_Act_of_1939

[whell]

Originally Posted by icenine

Boy talk about innuendo. You would have made a great Dick Nixon speech writer/campaign dirty tricks impresario...

Me with the innuendo? You're the one who said that folks in Congress are doing this all the time.

Of course, you've yet to identify any....

[bobabode]

Here you go Whell. That first link to a recent 60 Minutes episode should answer your question.

Originally Posted by icenine

I am not making this stuff up. It does not matter where they call from does it?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minut...telemarketers/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2427291.html

My point is Whell is holding Hillary to a double standard.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Actually, no. The Hatch Act does not apply to the Legislative Branch, nor to certain exceptions in the Executive Branch (persons in the Executive Office of the President and appointees approved by the Senate, with the specific exception of the Secretary of State (it applies to the SoS)).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatch_Act_of_1939

She was Secretary of State, Pat, and so has to comply with the Hatch Act.

From your Wiki link:

It provided that persons below the policy-making level in the executive branch of the federal government must not only refrain from political practices that would be illegal for any citizen, but must abstain from "any active part" in political campaigns, using this language to specify those who are exempt:[5]

(i) an employee paid from an appropriation for the Executive Office of the President; or
(ii) an employee appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, whose position is located within the United States, who determines policies to be pursued by the United States in the nationwide administration of Federal laws.

The language was crafted so that the Secretary of State was covered by the Act's restrictions on political activity.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Boreas

She was Secretary of State, Pat, and so has to comply with the Hatch Act.

From your Wiki link:

God knows Orin Hatch is a crafty old bugger.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by merrylander

God knows Orin Hatch is a crafty old bugger.

Wrong Hatch.