Trumps is in!

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Bullshit. Even with the horrific loss of life following a cover, conceal, and make-him-come-to-me strategy without a weapon offered a minimum 83% survive ratio. (50/300 = .166) Making those odds lower is what an "idiot would do."

And I assure you, the guy knows you're there unless you follow precisely the strategy I've laid forth.



I know enough to understand what someone trained in close quarters combat means when they put the word rest in parenthesis. NOTE: we're not discussing a horizontal surface which is the last thing anyone with knowledge would do because you immediately curtail vertical aim against the potential of multiple targets.

As I said before, there's nowhere to "rest" in that room. You're going to miss, you're going to make it worse.



More bullets flying from John Q.

Sigh... Are we done here? I tire of your ignorance.

You seem to think that if this had happened in a country and western bar in Texas that the result would have been the same. Yes, I call bull shit.

And sigh, I am done. You are not ignorant I'm sure. You just believe so much that isn't so.

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by bobabode

It's amusing to this old hippie how many RW visitors to this little corner web assume that the longtime members don't know squat about firearms. By my informal count 80% are former military and one is a former career LEO.

I said from the start that I had no idea how I would react. But, most of you seem to think that everybody in there was supposed to just be a victim totally at the mercy or lack thereof of the killer. I don't.

And, this delusion that somehow gun control is going to save us at this point is ridiculous. Maybe if there weren't already millions out there.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Yeah, I was a REMF Air Farce Medic in Da Nang.

AKA "Bedpan Commando".

We occasionally got incoming 122 mm rockets.

On the night of July 5th, 1971 we got a whole shitload of incoming.

One of those fuckers landed 70 meters from me.

It sounded like it went off inside my head.

I hugged the floor like a sissy through the whole thing.

I found some stuff about it on the net.

http://photo_al.tripod.com/pd.html

These pics bring back memories.

Smart move, Col. Kong.

Funny thing is I found out later in life that I could've claimed a legacy berth at Colo Springs from my gramps, an Army Air Corp Dadaelian in WW1. He helped to opened Kelly Field in Texas. One of the first aerobatics instructors there in a Jenny biplane.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

I said from the start that I had no idea how I would react. But, most of you seem to think that everybody in there was supposed to just be a victim totally at the mercy or lack thereof of the killer. I don't.

And, this delusion that somehow gun control is going to save us at this point is ridiculous. Maybe if there weren't already millions out there.

I'm all for a buy back program on mil spec assault rifles at scrap value. Make it a felony to own and voila, everybody turns them in. I don't give a sh!t in the NRA's hat if people have a piece in their home for 'protection'. See Heller.

What I strenuously object to every pissant yahoo going around strapped in public for no good reason other than they are scared of the boogeyman. Such people are a clear and present danger to my right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

You seem to think that if this had happened in a country and western bar in Texas that the result would have been the same.

No.

It would have been worse.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

You seem to think that if this had happened in a country and western bar in Texas that the result would have been the same. Yes, I call bull shit.

And sigh, I am done. You are not ignorant I'm sure. You just believe so much that isn't so.

If after a handful of drinks people are impaired to drive, how the fuck can the shoot straight let alone figure out who to shoot.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

You seem to think that if this had happened in a country and western bar in Texas that the result would have been the same. Yes, I call bull shit.

And sigh, I am done. You are not ignorant I'm sure. You just believe so much that isn't so.

Even the NRA has come out against guns in bars after Trump made an idiot of himself (again) after Orlando saying patrons there should have had guns. In other words, even Trump is too crazy for the NRA. That's saying something.

Even the National Rifle Association was uncomfortable with the way Donald Trump was talking about guns last week. The organization has worked hard to protect the rights of all kinds of people to bear arms, even opposing an effort last year to ban people on the terrorist watch list from purchasing guns. But when Trump suggested that people in nightclubs should carry guns for protection, he crossed a line.

"I don’t think we should have firearms where people are drinking," Wayne LaPierre, the association's vice president, told CBS on "Face the Nation" Sunday.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ad-of-the-nra/

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Even the NRA has come out against guns in bars after Trump made an idiot of himself (again) after Orlando saying patrons there should have had guns. In other words, even Trump is too crazy for the NRA. That's saying something.

Even the National Rifle Association was uncomfortable with the way Donald Trump was talking about guns last week. The organization has worked hard to protect the rights of all kinds of people to bear arms, even opposing an effort last year to ban people on the terrorist watch list from purchasing guns. But when Trump suggested that people in nightclubs should carry guns for protection, he crossed a line.

"I don’t think we should have firearms where people are drinking," Wayne LaPierre, the association's vice president, told CBS on "Face the Nation" Sunday.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ad-of-the-nra/

NC Law

1. Premises where alcoholic beverages are sold and consumed unless the premises is
posted to prohibit the possession or carrying of firearms. Of course, the permittee
may not consume any alcohol while carrying in this area. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-269.3;

[bobabode]

Ennywho...Campaign director, 'Knuckles' Lewandowski gets grilled on CNN about being fired by the Trump campaign.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...mepage%2Fstory

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

NC Law

1. Premises where alcoholic beverages are sold and consumed unless the premises is
posted to prohibit the possession or carrying of firearms. Of course, the permittee
may not consume any alcohol while carrying in this area. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-269.3;

How does this alter the NRA's position?