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Old 06-18-2016, 03:07 PM
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Personally I would be happy ton see someone who is truly best for Russia and who gets along with their neighbors.
We spent tons of money to destabilize the neighborhood. Trump is saying we should leave that to the Germans/British/French.

Putin is a great Russian. He knew and understood the new world order clique - the George Soros IMF tandem.

He saw them in action during and prior to the Yeltsin years when the clique captured the heights of the economy for pennies.

Once in power he effectively thwarted the clique. Some had to flee (London, New York, Tel aviv). Those who stayed had to pay taxes and give back some of the most outrageous acquired assets.

The clique is doing the same shit on the Russian periphery - getting assets cheaply, removing subsidies, bringing in the IMF leaving a recurrent mountain of debt on the citizens, only this time it is floating an escape valve...Schengen visas.

The above would be tolerable if the clique did not add NATO to the mix.

Russia is reacting to situations manipulated on its borders by powerful British and US friends of the clique.

Putin is a great Russian for solidifying his country after the shambles of the Yeltsin years. He made one error in not listening to Medvedev earlier on fool's gold nature of oil, but probably he needed to spend some money revamping and upgrading the military following its poor showing in Georgia.

The sanctions has given Russia a chance to be become self reliant. The reports on the agricultural sector is hopeful.

A huge country with 9 time zones should be able to withstand any sanction and such a country needs a strong leader to thwart, dismantle colored revolutions.
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Old 06-18-2016, 03:16 PM
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Old 06-18-2016, 03:27 PM
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Trump is such an evil monster. He said that if everyone in the Pulse Club would have had a holster with a gun, there would have been less casualties. And the mob crowd applauded totally enthusiastically.
Strapped customer in a club is a recipe for disaster.
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Old 06-18-2016, 04:05 PM
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In that event the death toll would heve been closer to 100. Even our trained police can't shoot straight.
I doubt there would have been a shooting at all.

This club was a "Gun Free Zone".

That made it a "soft target" for a mass shooter.

Doubt he would have tried it if he had known he was going to be going up against a bunch of guns.
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Old 06-18-2016, 04:25 PM
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I doubt there would have been a shooting at all.

This club was a "Gun Free Zone".

That made it a "soft target" for a mass shooter.

Doubt he would have tried it if he had known he was going to be going up against a bunch of guns.
You do realize that the shooter is on a suicide mission while the good guys are afraid for their lives.
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Old 06-18-2016, 06:59 PM
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You do realize that the shooter is on a suicide mission while the good guys are afraid for their lives.
So what?

That's a moot point since all of these mass shootings are happening in gun free zones.

Why do you think that is?

Coincidence?
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Old 06-18-2016, 07:14 PM
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Strapped drunk customers in a crowded club do not need Mateen to start shooting.
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Old 06-18-2016, 08:16 PM
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So what?

That's a moot point since all of these mass shootings are happening in gun free zones.

Why do you think that is?

Coincidence?
So the alternative is to allow guns in every public place? As for private establishments, that's at the discretion of the owner/management. How do you override their right to regulate their establishments?

If you were to own a bar would you really allow your patrons to carry their weapons inside? Better be in an unincorporated rural area where the county mounties look the other way.
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Old 06-18-2016, 08:48 PM
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Our attitude toward firearms is between barbaric and idiotic, yet they have become so much wallpaper in our culture. I'm coming to believe as a rational gun owner that the FFs were somewhat naive with the 2nd amendment concerning public trustworthiness with the responsibility.

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Our attitude toward firearms is between barbaric and idiotic, yet they have become so much wallpaper in our culture. I'm coming to believe as a rational gun owner that the FFs were somewhat naive with the 2nd amendment concerning public trustworthiness with the responsibility.

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The Founding Fathers could not even imagine this world, and probably would be shocked at how we are refusing to regulate assault weapons. They could not even imagine the civil war that ended slavery, the 14th Amendment or women voting.
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