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06-07-2016, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by merrylander
Why does the government not insist that all eligible voters are given four hours before the polls close in which to vote, that's what we had in Canada.
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Because we're not Canada and I thank god for that every night when I lay me down to sleep.
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06-07-2016, 11:28 AM
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It's not how many votes Hillary gets but how many more than Bernie is officially tallied. In other words if she does not poll enough to win, the fix will be in. It's happened again and again this primary season. 
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Dude.
She won more states. She won more votes.
If Sanders was ahead you would not be saying one damned thing about a rigged election. Now it may be true that independents had more difficulty voting because of how different states run their primaries. But independents who may have wanted to vote for Hillary faced the same hurtles and Sanders should have educated his independent supporters better. Of course he may have been caught by surprise at his success.
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06-07-2016, 11:34 AM
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I think the DNC was surprised too and the unsquare rigging was on.
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06-07-2016, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by icenine
Dude.
She won more states. She won more votes.
If Sanders was ahead you would not be saying one damned thing about a rigged election. Now it may be true that independents had more difficulty voting because of how different states run their primaries. But independents who may have wanted to vote for Hillary faced the same hurtles and Sanders should have educated his independent supporters better. Of course he may have been caught by surprise at his success.
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You have no way of knowing whether he would or not so I can only assume that it reflects what you would do/are doing. It says more about you than it does Rajoo.
And, by the way, Bernie blows Clinton away with Independents. If all primaries were open, my guess its Bernie would already have over 2,383 in pledged delegates.
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06-07-2016, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by icenine
Dude.
She won more states. She won more votes.
If Sanders was ahead you would not be saying one damned thing about a rigged election. Now it may be true that independents had more difficulty voting because of how different states run their primaries. But independents who may have wanted to vote for Hillary faced the same hurtles and Sanders should have educated his independent supporters better. Of course he may have been caught by surprise at his success.
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He is the Dude, not me.
Now I have brought this up over and over here. Since the primaries are funded by the tax payers, every voter should have an equal opportunity. It's not Bernie's responsibility to educate the voters.
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06-07-2016, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by icenine
If Sanders was ahead you would not be saying one damned thing about a rigged election.
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Of course not.
Bernie has too much integrity to rig an election.
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06-07-2016, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
Of course not.
Bernie has too much integrity to rig an election.
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And his supporters are idealistic and not the rotten selfish establishment types.
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06-07-2016, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Rajoo
He is the Dude, not me.
Now I have brought this up over and over here. Since the primaries are funded by the tax payers, every voter should have an equal opportunity. It's not Bernie's responsibility to educate the voters.
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You are right... It's not Bernie's job to educate voters. But, if he wanted their votes, he could have done it anyway.
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06-07-2016, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
You have no way of knowing whether he would or not so I can only assume that it reflects what you would do/are doing. It says more about you than it does Rajoo.
And, by the way, Bernie blows Clinton away with Independents. If all primaries were open, my guess its Bernie would already have over 2,383 in pledged delegates.
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First of all I don't care what you think I am doing. Second of all being an independent voter dilutes your power. If there are millions of progressive independents who could not have voted for Sanders because of primary rules they should have been registered Democrats in the first place or have been smart enough to switch over in time. It is their responsibility to know the rules about primary voting.
Of course Sanders could have run as an independent...
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06-07-2016, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by barbara
You are right... It's not Bernie's job to educate voters. But, if he wanted their votes, he could have done it anyway.
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Did Hillary had to educate her voters? Please think very carefully now and I am not talking about her campaigning.
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