Officer in Freddie Gray Case Acquitted On All Charges - Page 5

whell · #41 05-24-2016, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas

Again, one has to wonder why.

You might wonder, but the law is actually pretty clear.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/98-1036.ZO.html

whell · #42 05-24-2016, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas

Again, one has to wonder why that was the core of the prosecution's case rather than the fact that it's very likely, and there's ample supporting evidence, that Nero is responsible for the injury that eventually killed Freddie Gray.

No, there's not. That's why the the prosecution didn't go after Nero for "the injury that eventually killed Freddie Gray." They went after Nero only based on the arrest process. The autopsy did not conclude that Gray was injured prior to being loaded into the van.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/mar...ry.html#page=1

Boreas · #43 05-24-2016, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by whell

You might wonder, but the law is actually pretty clear.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/98-1036.ZO.html

As usual, your link fails to address the point. Wardlow wasn't injured and the whole case has to do with the motion to suppress the evidence of a gun found during a stop and frisk. This has nothing to do with the Freddie Gray case.

merrylander · #44 05-24-2016, 02:21 PM

Regardless of what the judge decided any thoughtful decent human being does not put another human being who is shackled and handcuffed with his hands behind his back into a van unrestrained. If I was to drive around without my seat belt done up I would get a citation, are the police above the law?

Boreas · #45 05-24-2016, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by whell

No, there's not. That's why the the prosecution didn't go after Nero for "the injury that eventually killed Freddie Gray." They went after Nero only based on the arrest process. The autopsy did not conclude that Gray was injured prior to being loaded into the van.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/mar...ry.html#page=1

Then explain why Freddie Gray was crying out in pain and couldn't use his legs after Nero "jacked him up".

Boreas · #46 05-24-2016, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by merrylander

Regardless of what the judge decided any thoughtful decent human being does not put another human being who is shackled and handcuffed with his hands behind his back into a van unrestrained. If I was to drive around without my seat belt done up I would get a citation, are the police above the law?

Something else Nero did.

catswiththum · #47 05-24-2016, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by nailer

Let's not be plastic with the facts.

I have decided I don't care about Freddie Gray. (gasp). I didn't know him, he didn't live in my city.

His arrest record a few pages long - drug possession, assault, distribution, etc. - 18 arrests. He was walking the street.

Maybe the cops were just sick of him - who knows? Sooner or later the universe has caught up with me for the stupid sh&t I've done.

Karma is a bitch - with that record prob. would have been smart to keep a low profile.

Tom Joad · #48 05-24-2016, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by catswiththum

I have decided I don't care about Freddie Gray. (gasp). I didn't know him, he didn't live in my city.

His arrest record a few pages long - drug possession, assault, distribution, etc. - 18 arrests. He was walking the street.

Maybe the cops were just sick of him - who knows? Sooner or later the universe has caught up with me for the stupid sh&t I've done.

Karma is a bitch - with that record prob. would have been smart to keep a low profile.

I see. So the same standards that apply to Freddie Gray do not apply to George Zimmerman.

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Originally Posted by catswiththum

That sentiment expressed by hundreds every day about countless people who end up dead. They all prob. thought they had a good reason to hate as well.

whell · #49 05-24-2016, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas

As usual, your link fails to address the point. Wardlow wasn't injured and the whole case has to do with the motion to suppress the evidence of a gun found during a stop and frisk. This has nothing to do with the Freddie Gray case.

Sure it does. As usual, you don't grasp it. It speaks directly to the case the prosecution was making in the Gray case. Specifically:

The case was before the SCOTUS because "...the Illinois Supreme Court determined that sudden flight in such an area does not create a reasonable suspicion justifying a Terry stop." In the Gray case, the Prosecution argued that that Nero and other officers assaulted Gray by touching him without reasonable suspicion or probable cause (that Gray fleeing from Police was not reasonable suspicion or probable cause).

In Illinois v Wardlow, SCOTUS reversed Illinois Supreme Court. If you actually read through the SCOTUS opinion, it goes into quite a bit of detail about why they reversed for reasons specific to the arguments the Prosecution in the Gray case made at trial.

Boreas · #50 05-24-2016, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by catswiththum

I have decided I don't care about Freddie Gray. (gasp). I didn't know him, he didn't live in my city.

His arrest record a few pages long - drug possession, assault, distribution, etc. - 18 arrests. He was walking the street.

Maybe the cops were just sick of him - who knows? Sooner or later the universe has caught up with me for the stupid sh&t I've done.

Karma is a bitch - with that record prob. would have been smart to keep a low profile.

You sound like a true sociopath.