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05-24-2016, 12:08 PM
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The fact that he had nothing to do with Gray's death, for starters.
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But you never mentioned this 'fact' before in this thread, so that can't be the source of yall's previous claims that you have such great 'fact power.'
I don't think the fact is a fact in any case. Video shows Gray already badly injured when being placed in the van.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YV0EtkWyno
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05-24-2016, 12:35 PM
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Let's not be plastic with the facts.
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05-24-2016, 12:47 PM
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I knew it would be you to be the first to say, "But he's black!"
It's not a black issue. It's a blue issue.
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No, sorry, that was you.
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05-24-2016, 12:56 PM
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The fact that he had nothing to do with Gray's death, for starters.
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The cell phone video of the arrest makes that anything but clear.
Jinks!
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05-24-2016, 01:02 PM
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It's important to remember that Freddie Gray didn't have the use of his legs after Nero got done with him.
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No, its important to remember that "the use of his legs" wasn't essential to the case the prosecution was making against Nero. They didn't go after Nero based on what happened / didn't happen in the van. They went after Nero for the "assault" that the prosecution allege occurred during the initial arrest. That's why the Prosecution in this case focused on the process of the arrest, and attempted to make the case that the arrest was not legal. If the Prosecution was successful (they ultimately were not) in making the case that the arrest was not legal, then the physical contact that occurred during the process of the arrest / seizure / search would have constituted illegal assault.
Since the Prosecution couldn't convince the judge that the arrest was illegal, the lynch pin for their whole case, the prosecution of Nero fell apart.
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05-24-2016, 01:02 PM
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Hey, don't jinx me!
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05-24-2016, 01:10 PM
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Hey, don't jinx me!
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I didn't. I jinksed you.
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05-24-2016, 01:11 PM
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No, its important to remember that "the use of his legs" wasn't essential to the case the prosecution was making against Nero.
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One can only wonder why.
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05-24-2016, 01:34 PM
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One can only wonder why.
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The information already posted here explains why. You apparently would prefer to simply ignore it.
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05-24-2016, 01:44 PM
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The information already posted here explains why. You apparently would prefer to simply ignore it.
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Since the Prosecution couldn't convince the judge that the arrest was illegal, the lynch pin for their whole case, the prosecution of Nero fell apart.
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Again, one has to wonder why that was the core of the prosecution's case rather than the fact that it's very likely, and there's ample supporting evidence, that Nero is responsible for the injury that eventually killed Freddie Gray.
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