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05-09-2016, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
"I am endorsing Hillary, and all her lies and all her empty promises," O'Rourke continued. "It's the second-worst thing that can happen to this country, but she's way behind in second place. She's wrong about absolutely everything, but she's wrong within normal parameters."
"This man just can't be president," O'Rourke said, alluding to the nuclear codes the commander-in-chief takes control of upon assuming office. "They've got this button — this briefcase. He's going to find it."
http://www.npr.org/2016/05/09/477339...-backs-clinton
Quite a ringing endorsement.
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Excerpt made me laugh out loud.
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05-09-2016, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by noonereal
That would be a circus...
Palin was on CNN’s “State of the Union” yesterday.
How does a news organization justify having a dolt like her on? That's what I don't get.
Of course, I don't understand why Trump is considered in the same category as Palin by many.
Very interesting stuff.
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Some of us have been pointing this to you, but it's been futile. They both fell off the same tree but Palin landed on her head.
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05-09-2016, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by noonereal
That would be a circus...
Palin was on CNN’s “State of the Union” yesterday.
How does a news organization justify having a dolt like her on? That's what I don't get.
Of course, I don't understand why Trump is considered in the same category as Palin by many.
Very interesting stuff.
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Birds of a feather ...
Just look at the people who have come out for Trump - Palin, Sessions, Brewer, Christie, Mike Tyson. A cavalcade of clowns.
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05-13-2016, 08:54 AM
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None of the Bankers Think Hillary Clinton Believes Her Populism
Of course the Wall Street bankers are not worried about Hillary. I strongly suspect that it would be obvious why if she were to release the transcripts of those speeches she gave.
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/ite...urnalist-wrote
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Barack Obama's mild rebukes caused Wall Street to explode in fury and self-pity back in 2009 and 2010; the financiers pouted and cried and picked up their campaign donations and went home. But Hillary's comments provoke no such reaction. Only a few days before she launched her campaign, for example, John Mack, the former CEO of Morgan Stanley, was asked by a host on the Fox Business channel whether her populist talk was causing him to reconsider his support for her. On the contrary: "To me, it's all politics," he responded. "It's trying to get elected, to get the nomination."
"None of them think she really means her populism," wrote a prominent business journalist in 2014 about the bankers and Hillary. The Clinton Foundation has actually held meetings at the headquarters of Goldman Sachs, he points out. He quotes another Morgan Stanley officer, who believes that "like her husband, [Hillary] will govern from the center, and work to get things done, and be capable of garnering support across different groups, including working with Republicans."
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05-13-2016, 09:40 AM
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Populism is ok, but there is a trend in American history where it sometimes co-joined with prejudice and xenophobia. Trump is another example of that. So when you talk about Populism Joad I also am reminded you support a man who is a race-baiter.
As to what the banker said :
"None of them think she really means her populism," wrote a prominent business journalist in 2014 about the bankers and Hillary. The Clinton Foundation has actually held meetings at the headquarters of Goldman Sachs, he points out. He quotes another Morgan Stanley officer, who believes that "like her husband, [Hillary] will govern from the center, and work to get things done, and be capable of garnering support across different groups, including working with Republicans."
I'll take that in a heartbeat over Trump.
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05-13-2016, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by icenine
Populism is ok, but there is a trend in American history where it sometimes co-joined with prejudice and xenophobia. Trump is another example of that. So when you talk about Populism Joad I also am reminded you support a man who is a race-baiter.
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I'm a Bernie Bro Ice.
I've donated $500 to his campaign and I voted for him in the primary.
I haven't given a cent to Trump, nor do I plan to.
Your problem is you can't defend your candidate against Bernie, so you default to playing the "She's better than Trump" card because it's the only one you have.
Well, here's how I see it. Bernie has opened my eyes to what a real Democrat is supposed to stand for. He has exposed Hillary for what she really is. A closet Republican running as a Democrat. She's as phony as a three dollar bill.
As for Hillary vs. Trump, If you have two enemy soldiers, one wearing the uniform of the enemy (Trump) and one wearing the uniform of your country's army (Hillary), which one is the most dangerous?
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05-13-2016, 10:01 AM
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I must have struck a cord you are rambling like a man in an insane asylum.
On the bright side I think they are serving butterscotch pudding with lunch today Joad....
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05-13-2016, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by icenine
Populism is ok, but there is a trend in American history where it sometimes co-joined with prejudice and xenophobia. Trump is another example of that. So when you talk about Populism Joad I also am reminded you support a man who is a race-baiter.
As to what the banker said :
"None of them think she really means her populism," wrote a prominent business journalist in 2014 about the bankers and Hillary. The Clinton Foundation has actually held meetings at the headquarters of Goldman Sachs, he points out. He quotes another Morgan Stanley officer, who believes that "like her husband, [Hillary] will govern from the center, and work to get things done, and be capable of garnering support across different groups, including working with Republicans."
I'll take that in a heartbeat over Trump.
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I'm not ready to concede that as the only choice. And centrist, a.k.a. corporate or "Third Way" Democrats aren't any better than the mainstream Republicans. They're both beholden to the same "economic royalists".
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05-13-2016, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
I'm a Bernie Bro Ice.
I've donated $500 to his campaign and I voted for him in the primary.
I haven't given a cent to Trump, nor do I plan to.
Your problem is you can't defend your candidate against Bernie, so you default to playing the "She's better than Trump" card because it's the only one you have.
Well, here's how I see it. Bernie has opened my eyes to what a real Democrat is supposed to stand for. He has exposed Hillary for what she really is. A closet Republican running as a Democrat. She's as phony as a three dollar bill.
As for Hillary vs. Trump, If you have two enemy soldiers, one wearing the uniform of the enemy (Trump) and one wearing the uniform of your country's army (Hillary), which one is the most dangerous?
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Originally Posted by icenine
I must have struck a cord you are rambling like a man in an insane asylum.
On the bright side I think they are serving butterscotch pudding with lunch today Joad....
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Well, that plus insulting and ridiculing people with other views.
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05-13-2016, 10:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Joad
I'm a Bernie Bro Ice.
I've donated $500 to his campaign and I voted for him in the primary.
I haven't given a cent to Trump, nor do I plan to.
Your problem is you can't defend your candidate against Bernie, so you default to playing the "She's better than Trump" card because it's the only one you have.
Well, here's how I see it. Bernie has opened my eyes to what a real Democrat is supposed to stand for. He has exposed Hillary for what she really is. A closet Republican running as a Democrat. She's as phony as a three dollar bill.
As for Hillary vs. Trump, If you have two enemy soldiers, one wearing the uniform of the enemy (Trump) and one wearing the uniform of your country's army (Hillary), which one is the most dangerous?
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But one does get enjoy the hollow comeback victories against a one legged competitor. It's a shame when one can attack the person that you are not voting for rather defend the one that you intend to.
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